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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Heyman- Executives are expecting Donaldson decision soon. Feels like mostly an NL East battle. Belief is Nats are in big — likely at 4 years — but JD is expected to give Braves a last chance. Twins, Rangers, Dodgers have been linked but seem like longer shots (LA already has a great 3B)
    Heyman with more worthless guesses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    You know Ozuna got a QO too, right, or would we only lose a 4th rounder for him in hypothetical scenario. And JD takes pretty good care of his body, i dont foresee him being a DH down the line but it's still risky giving a 34 year old, 4 years.
    We would lose the 4th rounder for signing Ozuna while recovering the 3rd rounder for Donaldson signing with the Gnats.
    Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...

    Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tululush View Post
    Heyman with more worthless guesses.
    Most people expect Was or Atl. The money/years is anyones guess though.

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    Washington is fixin to overpay for JD I can feel it. If we could make a deal with the Rockies where they eat 5-10 million a year then that would be an amazing add to the lineup. The opt out needs to be worked out before the trade unless the package going back is light. And if they would take a light package then why trade him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeter31 View Post
    I highly, highly doubt Freeman remains here when his current deal is over. He’ll command a huge contract and salary and would make sense for an AL team to make a huge push for him.
    The universal DH will be here by the time Freddie's current deal is up.

    As for him signing a "huge contract", nobody's likely going to offer him anything more than the Goldschmidt deal 2 years from now. That's 5 @ $26 million. Given how close he and Chipper are, I'll bet he's willing to take a 2-3 year extension at that AAV if AA offers it tomorrow, and he'll be happy to go year-to-year after that.

    Plenty of people will say I'm wrong about that, but there hasn't been another player with a personality that screams "I want to retire a Brave" since Chipper (Mac's victory lap notwithstanding), and it's likely going to be a long time before another player worth paying for decline years to do just that comes along again. Dansby wants no part of leaving either, but he's going to have to take even further below market deals to ever get that chance. If the universal DH comes to fruition, Freddie stands a realistic chance of becoming one of those almost extinct guys that makes it to the Hall while only wearing one uniform in his career.
    Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...

    Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?

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    I can’t remember the last time you were wrong about something, so I have no doubt you’re right about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tululush View Post
    I posted this earlier. It doesn’t look like a deal for Arenado seems likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tululush View Post
    I posted this earlier. It doesn’t look like a deal for Arenado seems likely.
    Probably wont know until JD decides but yeah, doesnt seem likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    We would lose the 4th rounder for signing Ozuna while recovering the 3rd rounder for Donaldson signing with the Gnats.
    But you have to remember, we forfeit our 2nd round pick by signing Will Smith, and if we lose JD we gain a pick after Comp Round B, so we will drop down from roughly pick 63 to pick 68-69. So it’s not an even swap. Had we not signed Smith we wouldn’t have dropped those spots.
    And if we sign Ozuna, we then lose our 3rd rounder (not our 4th)

    http://m.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/qualifying-offer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    I bet he does something team friendly. He's motivated to stay. I'd wager he doesn't even make it to free agency this time.
    O'Flaherty recently said something on DOBs podcast along the lines of Freeman sees himself as a Brave for his entire career and will be team friendly to make it happen.

    I always look at those statements skeptically, and even if he is willing the Braves might not be if someone like Ball is rocking a 1.200 OPS in Gwinnett when Freeman's contract is up.
    Go get him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirkPiggler View Post
    Are you sure that's the trade you proposed? Because I think you were advocating for trading for AAAA.J. Reed instead of Alvarez. But I could be mistaken...I'm going off of memory as well.
    I made a number of different proposals centered around moving Freeman and getting prospects back. I think after the 2015 season I had Reed in one of them. He got hurt in 2016 IIRC and after that he was no longer a prospect and bouncing in the ML. I may have had him as a throw in in later trades, I don't remember.

    I do remember that I had a number of trades that included Tucker, Whitley and Alvarez. I also had other iterations, including IIRC one with Celestino as the third or fourth guy coming back. Any trade may result in a prospect(s) not working out. I don't claim to have a staff to help me scout as to who comes back. I freely admit to paper scouting with the exception of a few live looks. It's the concept that I was pushing not necessarily the specifics.

    Let's say only one of the players ever worked out, I'll choose Tucker. Then in 2020 you'd have a guy who's probably going to be at least a 2 WAR RF (who will be under control 5 more years and has the potential to be much more than a 2 WAR guy) and $22M to fill your 1B hole both in 2020 and 2021 and you don't have the pressure of re-signing an aging home town favorite. Not trading Freeman, you've got a 4-5 WAR guy at 1B for the next two years and then either a pick (if QO is still a thing) or an expensive and dangerous re-sign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    You are correct. HH wanted AJ Reed in almost every single Freeman trade rant.
    Reed was in some but not all and not many if any after 2016 IIRC.

    Go check my posting history and you might find something IDK and don't care.

    But I will tell you this. I'm not CLV. Don't **** with me Nick.

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    Markakis ruins everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsehide Harry View Post
    Reed was in some but not all and not many if any after 2016 IIRC.

    Go check my posting history and you might find something IDK and don't care.

    But I will tell you this. I'm not CLV. Don't **** with me Nick.
    Lol dun dun dun!!!

    Lamest internet tough guy line I’ve ever read haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    Markakis ruins everything.
    Lol what did he do now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Lol dun dun dun!!!

    Lamest internet tough guy line I’ve ever read haha.
    Coming from the original, I'll take it as a compliment.

    Cheers. Have a beer or a white claw or whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadduxFanII View Post
    Man, I'd be delighted if the Twins grab him if we don't land him

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadduxFanII View Post
    If that’s true then be prepared to not see Donaldson in a Braves uniform again. Time to move on to plan B. I hope we don’t get bent over in acquiring Kris Bryant.

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    He has 4 year deals, but the 4th year is an option year...

    thank you weso1!

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