Trump Trials Watch I

[Tapate50]

Odd theory.

My client took my legal advice , thus he needs to go to jail. Odd witness

[Tapate50]

Maybe Michael Cohen can give his old boss some tips on how to survive prison.

Did you find a legal opinion on this being legit now that evidence has been presented ? Bc that’s a first

Maybe your Japanese headlines will give you some better perspective here ! Lol

[thethe]

They still don’t understand trumps never going to jail and he will be the next president.

[Tapate50]

They still don’t understand trumps never going to jail and he will be the next president.

Gonna be some mentally fragile ones snap at this

[Runnin]

We shall see what the jury says pretty soon.

[thethe]

We shall see what the jury says pretty soon.

We have heard "We shall see' since 2015.....

[Garmel]

We have heard "We shall see' since 2015.....

After all we have seen they still can't figure out they're being duped.

[thethe]

After all we have seen they still can't figure out they're being duped.

And after all we have seen come to light on the election steal so many still don't see the obvious writing on the wall.

In the end it won't matter because it just made Trump a more sympathetic figure and will lead the outcome I thought we were going to see for 2020 and onward. A golden age is still upon us. The people of the western world are waking up.

[Tapate50]

We shall see what the jury says pretty soon.

For what crime ? All reports from the court room say they haven’t even referenced a crime, much less proven anything.

After all the witnesses people are shocked it got this far. Most believe it shouldn’t now that most evidence has come forth.

Judge showing bias by allowing the testimony he has and this to continue at all is a bad look.

[Tapate50]

And after all we have seen come to light on the election steal so many still don't see the obvious writing on the wall.

In the end it won't matter because it just made Trump a more sympathetic figure and will lead the outcome I thought we were going to see for 2020 and onward. A golden age is still upon us. The people of the western world are waking up.

It has shown the DOJ for what it is currently. 100%

[nsacpi]

Discussion by some experienced lawyers:

David French: Let’s start with a big-picture question. I have less trial experience than either of you, but this deep into a trial, I always had a sense of the momentum of the case, of who is winning and who is losing. Who is more pleased with the course of the trial so far — the prosecution or the defense?

Rebecca Roiphe: In my view, the prosecution is happier about how things are going than the defense. They have established the backbone of the case, which is the false records, and they have provided a great deal of circumstantial evidence tying Donald Trump to those records and establishing his intent.

Ken White: When you ask who is more pleased with the course of the trial, remember that Trump is usually pursuing a public relations and political strategy at the expense of good courtroom strategy. In that sense, I suspect Team Trump is happy that he’s getting lots of airtime to push his narrative that he’s a victim of the elites and that the trial doesn’t seem to have had much of an impact on his polling numbers.

If you ask me as a trial lawyer, I agree with Rebecca that the D.A. is doing a solid job proving the elements of its case and telling the story in a way likely to grab the jury. So far, they are hitting all the necessary points.

French: Let’s end with some lightning round questions. First, since the trial has started, in your view has the chance of conviction gone up or down?

Roiphe: Up.

White: Up significantly.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/14/o...smid=url-share

[Garmel]

I'm willing to bet those guys also bought into the Colorado ballot case.

Even if convicted the case won't make it pass the appeals.

[nsacpi]

French: I want to share my chief concern about the case. Readers may recall that to secure a conviction for a felony, the prosecution doesn’t just have to prove that Trump falsified business records but that he did so in furtherance of another crime. In your judgment, is the prosecution doing enough to establish that crucial element of the case? And is that element of the case legally robust enough to survive an appeal?

Roiphe: I am not as concerned about the vulnerability of this case as others have been. There has been a lot of testimony about Trump’s concern about these women’s stories and how they would affect the election. This testimony has come from pretty uncontroversial witnesses like Hope Hicks. In a way, it’s just common sense: Why were all these people involved in such a coordinated and intricate effort to make these payments and then lie about them? There are very few plausible reasons other than the one the prosecution has set forth.

White: The jury will be less worried about the nuances of the “furtherance of another crime” element than we commenters are. Juries tend to absorb things on a big-picture story level. The D.A. has done a very solid job connecting Trump’s deceit and hush-money payments to campaign concerns, not to family embarrassment.

[nsacpi]

I might add that I have criticized Bragg for bringing this case. Legally, it might be solid enough. But it is still a reach. Convicting someone of jaywalking on the way to robbing a bank. Something like that. The other cases in Washington, Atlanta and South Florida involve serious crimes that go to the heart of our system of government. It is unfortunate that those cases are not going to be adjudicated before the election.

[thethe]

I'm willing to bet those guys also bought into the Colorado ballot case.

Even if convicted the case won't make it pass the appeals.

It was a super serious case man - Just like having a porn star as one of your star witnesses in the super serious NY case.

[thethe]

I might add that I have criticized Bragg for bringing this case. Legally, it might be solid enough. But it is still a reach. Convicting someone of jaywalking on the way to robbing a bank. Something like that. The other cases in Washington, Atlanta and South Florida involve serious crimes that go to the heart of our system of government. It is unfortunate that those cases are not going to be adjudicated before the election.

The florida documents case where the prosecution planted/destroyed chain of custody on evidence?

That super serious one?

[Garmel]

It was a super serious case man - Just like having a porn star as one of your star witnesses in the super serious NY case.

The best part was that she committed perjury. Did you see the Maher tape?

[thethe]

The best part was that she committed perjury. Did you see the Maher tape?

Of course she did - The globalists/leftists thought the threat of the cases would stop voters from electing Trump (that was the true trap) in the primary. Now that they are screwed and Trump is romping to an election landslide so they had to 'create a crime' and tampering with evidence and getting witnesses to commit perjury.

Its just as I thought it would play out when everyone swore to me that these cases were super serious.

[Tapate50]

As the evidence is shown, they really play out weaker than the media let on.

It’s gotten desperate and only helped Trump.

[thethe]

As the evidence is shown, they really play out weaker than the media let on.

It’s gotten desperate and only helped Trump.

Its literally the same playbook since 2015.

Release some accusations that are "SUPER SERIOUS". Its gets played and replayed over and over again so that a good chunk of the country is convinced Trump is guilty. Then when it plays out over time the coverage is lightened so people don't see how much of a lie it was originally.

A nice time is to go back and look at some media clips from late 2016/early 2017. They convinced the whole country that Trump and Vlad were on the phone daily thinking about how to destroy the country.