Braves1976 (11-17-2014), CyYoung31 (11-18-2014), jpx7 (11-17-2014)
Lol.
Terrible trade after Terrible trade. Cardinals have the bread to keep Jason too. Welcome to another 5 years or so of mediocrity. Pathetic really. And if Miller winds up being what he can be, we won't be able to keep him long term either.He's a FA after 2018 and if he's legit, And I think everyone is gonna wind up real mad when they see what Jason extends for in St. Louis. We're being fed lies from our FO.
While Miller is young, he would have been our WORST starting pitcher last year in terms of FIP. Even worse than Minor. So we trade our best position player to add someoen who may not be more than our 4 starter? Bunch of ****ing losers. No wonder they stood by Fredi who's a bigger loser. This is the dumbest move I think the Braves have made in my lifetime, letting Jason leave the organization.
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bravesnumberone (11-17-2014)
Whoever made the joke last week about giving the Cards Heyward since we gave them Wainwright should be banned for life, or at least never allowed to make a joke on this board ever again.
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I'm not even sure I want to be a braves fan anymore. Feels like Hart just punched me in the gut.
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The thing to keep in mind is that this trade was done in the midst of a nice "collegial" atmosphere in the front office. It marks the return of doing things the Braves way. Happy days!!
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Cards will have stiff competition to sign him long term. Namely from the yanks and BoSox. Pretty clear Heyward wants to go to FA. Unless the Cards are offering 200 million this very minute, it's hard to imagine Heyward signing an extension.
Last edited by Carp; 11-17-2014 at 12:27 PM.
rico43 (11-17-2014)
I feel robbed of the ability to enjoy baseball in 2015.
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The rebuild is on. But you can be damn sure the Braves knew they could not sign him. He'll be in NYC come 2016.
BedellBrave (11-17-2014)
BTW my apathy for the Braves is coming close to my apathy towards the NFL. This team waxes on and on about loyalty and the Braves way, and cuts loose leaders. not just players, but leaders. Hopefully this works out and Miller realizes his potential, but **** it's getting really hard to root for a team who doesn't reward people for doing good work.
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bravesnumberone (11-17-2014)
Walden is worth more than Jenkins. So you are telling me Shelby Miller is worth more than Heyward? What a ****ing joke.
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I'm going to be really ****ing pissed if we start hearing dark intimations about Heyward's character and unreasonable contract demands through DOB and Bowman. I mean really pissed.
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Maybe, but I bet he would have signed here for a deal if we didn't move him. Now that ship has sailed, hopefully we're not dumb to let Justin go, if we do might as well trade Freddie too cause **** it we're gonna suck for 5+ years and by then he'll be on the downswing of his career.
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Wow I need to digest this a bit. Getting past the shock of Heyward for a minute, Shelby Miller is a potential front line SP with years of control and has already proven to be very effective. Tyrell Jenkins is a hell of a pitching prospect and young. Still needs time to develop though.
I've got to say....this is a pretty good haul for 1 year of Heyward.
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**** this
Joel Sherman
@Joelsherman1
Think still possible #Braves trade J.Upton and continue to look for salary dump of BJ Upton. New GM Hart thinking about team for new stadium
terrible terrible terrible terrible **** this organization.
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