Originally Posted by Heyward
What have the Dodgers won lately?
What have the Dodgers won lately?
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@Buster_ESPN: Can't find the original tweet, but this was inspired by a tweep: Kershaw will make about 75 cents per heartbeat over the next seven years.
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I love it.
We have to work hard and build quality teams to make it to the playoffs let alone win the division.
When Heyward, Freeman, Android, Medlen, Minor, Kimbrel all get too expensive, we won't be as competitive with the Dodgers.
And look at what Boston's money has bought them in the last 10 years. 3 championships. They spent their money right most of the time. I wish we had money to throw around like they did with Crawford and Agon and can just unload it and have all that money to put back in.
Forever Fredi
I think we all neeed to understand that the money is inflated. 30 million now is what 24 million was just a couple of years ago.
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KB21 (01-17-2014)
Unbelievable, just crazy how insane, and how rapid contracts have increased over the past 15-20 years.
Yes, mid market teams have to be smart and keep their mistakes at minimum and big market teams can absorb a lot of mistakes. However there are countless teams that spend a ton of money that don't win anything. A lot don't even make the playoffs which is really embarrassing.
Embarrassing sure.
But I'd rather have the comfort of knowing we can spend money because actually have a bunch of great baseball minds in our front office, than know we don't have money and count down the days until our favorite players are wearing other uniforms.
Frank Wren is going to get crucified by so many uninformed Braves fans when he has to trade Kimbrel in a few years. They won't understand why he did it, most of us will. They will just complain and say he's doing a terrible job (not that it matters because JS and McGuirk are smarter than that and know the fiscal reality) but it will definitely divide the fan base.
Forever Fredi
Who wouldn't want that comfort. Still, money does not buy championships. Otherwise the Yankees would have won the last 20. It definitely is an advantage but it guarantees you nothing. You have to be smart about it. And signing a pitcher, even if he is one of the top pitchers in baseball, for 7 years usually isn't smart.
Agreed.
You can do it the Yankee way and be competitive for a short window and then be stuck with major contracts for a long time.
Or you can do it Boston's way by spending big while developing prospects and being able to afford them as well (I personally think Boston could've afforded Ellsbury, but chose not to match the price the Yankees did. Ellsbury's contract is going to hurt the Yanks in a few years when he no longer can play CF).
We're all in agreement that there really is no perfect formula for building an October team. Hot teams will get hot. Unless you're the Braves because even if you go into October hot you someone figure out a way to get cold overnight. I'd rather have money to be able to spend to try and remain competitive because I know Wren won't make stupid desperation moves like Lowe and Kawakami and would go after someone worth the money like Price.
Forever Fredi
He'll only be 32 at the end of the deal, still in line for another 5-7 year deal.
It's a good deal for them.
Just got to the NLCS and probably make the WS if Hanley could grip a bat.
If they get Tanaka, they'll at least make the NLCS if not WS.
Even still, and KL said, they can afford to have bad contracts or ones that dont pan out and still be good. Other teams cant.
Last edited by Heyward; 01-16-2014 at 03:09 AM.
Haha...just read he'll also be making more than the entire Braves' pitching staff who right now are estimated at around $27 million
The Dodgers currently have 5 players making 20M of more, they could end up with 7 if they extended Hanley and signed the Japanese pitcher. 5, count them, 5 players combined on the Dodgers make more than 15 or 16 teams entire payrolls. Something has to be done to stop this madness.
A trip to the NLCS. That sure does mean a lot. Your last statement is true about big money teams. They can absorb mistakes a lot easier. But that's about all they can do. Look at the other team in LA. Huge ass payroll and can't even get to .500 at times. Nothing is guaranteed in baseball with the way the playoff format is now. The Braves proved that for years when they had the best team/pitching staff. The Dodgers are a good team and will likely continue to be good. They still have to play their best baseball for a month to win it all.
Money does buy you playoffs though, more often than not. And all you need to do is get in.
Last edited by Carp; 01-17-2014 at 04:29 AM.
Dodgers are pocketing at least 6 billion in Thier new tv deal over the next 25 years. That's $240,000,000 a year.
6 billion is the floor.
Guess both the tv deal and Kershaws contract are both being announced tomorrow.
A lot of times it does. However The Cubs and Mets and now the Angels are examples of teams that have spent a lot and been embarrassingly bad. Yankees now are on a downward slide despite spending a ton of money. Money doesn't buy championships which is what I was responding too.
And don't forget the Phillies.
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