They were out until Hart came crawling back and said "please sir, I'll take your injured pitcher and 3 fringe guys now for JUp...please?".Originally Posted by yeezus
They were out until Hart came crawling back and said "please sir, I'll take your injured pitcher and 3 fringe guys now for JUp...please?".
Hawk (12-20-2014)
As others have said, none of us were in on the negotiations. Your leaps of logic don't seem as logical to me as they do for you.
Giants trading for McGehee. Third base roulette has ended with the Braves and Johnson stuck with one another.
Pray for Kevin Seitzer.
Johnson is cheaper and provides far more value than BJ, so I'm not that upset he is still around. The guy destroys lefties. He just needs a platoon partner and his value will bounce right back next year.
One possible trade partner for CJ is ARI. They have a LHH 3B in Jake Lamb that could use a platoon partner. They also have a questionable contract in Cody Ross that we could assume. Ross will make $8.5m in 2015 w/ a $1m buyout in 2016.
Ross is basically dead weight for them, so this would effectively give them CJ for 3 years at $14m. That's probably fairly close to his market value.
While they've said they'll give Yasmany Tomas a shot to play 3B this year, I think they'll give him a taste of AAA first and he'll only be playable in the OF.
I'm one of the few guys here that doesn't think we need to trade CJ unless we get a pretty good deal or someone takes his WHOLE contract. His contract isn't that bad at all, he destroys lefties and honestly, he's a solid hitter. Last year was absolutely awful, I'm pretty sure he will do much better this year.
Dalyn (12-20-2014)
IMO its a no lose situation with CJ and BJ at this point. Braves are not competing next year. Both of these guys couldn't have less value in th efuture than they do now. Just roll the dice and hope they have solid seasons then trade them next offseason.
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jpx7 (12-20-2014)
CJ actually could have less value if he also stopped hitting lefties, but I agree about BJ.
I think the offset of his contract becoming less of an overall cap number will offset that. But I see your point.
It doesn't make sense to trade these guys right now. They brought in Seitzer to work with the hitters and get them back to the point where they cut down on their swings and used the whole field. Lets see if it works.
Natural Immunity Croc
I don't know if there really is much more we could hope to wring out of CJ. He is what he is. He has a plus hit skill, but not much else. We just have to hope to get lucky.
Platoon for him is a really smart idea though.
Biggest holes in this team have still not been addressed. But we got our prospects!
Don't know what you're speaking of. Opening day lineup is apparent.
Freeman
Gosselin
Simmons
Johnson
Bethancourt
Markakis
Upton
Gattis
Teheran
Wood
Miller
Minor
Hale
Where are the holes of which you refer? Now if they trade Gattis, then its FUBAR.
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Someone said the Pads were 100% out on Upton. So what you posted doesn't necessarily matter.
BJ is as useful as a paper bag and CJ is not good except vs lefties. Should I say weakness instead? Might as well be a hole.
Cf, 2b, 3b, ss, and catcher.
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Yea I don't see Gosselin starting. Without other deals we're probably giving Jace a chance to start at 2B and platoon Callaspo and CJ at 3B.
Another CJ trade scenario with ARI that may work for both clubs would be a straight up trade for Trevor Cahill.
Cahill has been a disappointment since being acquired and the front office has publicly said that he's battling with 4 other pitchers for the final spot in the Diamondback's rotation. Last year he had a 5.68 ERA but a 3.89 FIP. He's a groundball pitcher that would fit well with McDowell. His FB velocity started out terrible last year, but got a lot better in the final couple months of the season. He's owed $12m next year in the final year of his deal.
Steamer projects him for 153 IP, 4.02 FIP, and 1.3 WAR.
cajunrevenge (12-21-2014)
I'm also with sticking with Johnson for now. I think his true level is about halfway between his 2013 and 2014 seasons. Plus I want to see what we've got in Kubitza before going to the trouble of an external acquisition.
If you consider Simmons a negative, then your credibility has gone down the toilet. It will be a cold day in hades before I waste any time with any of your posts. My God.
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