2024 Field

[thethe]

If it's not clear...

5 min ago doesn't mean literally 5 min ago

For the purposes of clarity, I'll adjust my language

You loved this guy 6 months ago

He made a.statement on Ukraine and now he's Romney 2.0

Was your judgement wrong 6 months ago?

My judgement without realizing he’d push the same neo-con foreign policy was wrong. But I did note during that time desantis has been vague about his foreign policy. I know you love to leave that part out because it destroys this silly game you’re tying to play.

[chop2chip]

Every single person pays taxes understanding they won’t be paying taxes forever. That person still expects government services such as roads or disaster recovery or military protection. Why is that any different?

Social security wasn’t setup with the intention that income taxes would fund it. That’s why we specifically have social security taxes.

You’re proposing to fund social security with income tax and/or inflation. You’re basically asking the next few generations to pay extra and if you can’t fund it with those “easy fixes” it goes bankrupt.

[sturg33]

My judgement without realizing he’d push the same neo-con foreign policy was wrong. But I did note during that time desantis has been vague about his foreign policy. I know you love to leave that part out because it destroys this silly game you’re tying to play.

So it is indeed possible that thethes real time judgement can be wrong

Welcome to the club

Remember the lesson

[sturg33]

Social security wasn’t setup with the intention that income taxes would fund it. That’s why we specifically have social security taxes.

You’re proposing to fund social security with income tax and/or inflation. You’re basically asking the next few generations to pay extra and if you can’t fund it with those “easy fixes” it goes bankrupt.

No! No! No!

That would be reforming it.

And thethe, trump, Biden, AOC, and Bernie are clear that reforming it are anti American!

It's fine on its own! Nothing needs to change!!!

In 2033, **** all those old people!

[thethe]

Social security wasn’t setup with the intention that income taxes would fund it. That’s why we specifically have social security taxes.

You’re proposing to fund social security with income tax and/or inflation. You’re basically asking the next few generations to pay extra and if you can’t fund it with those “easy fixes” it goes bankrupt.

There is a legal/accounting concept called substance over form. The government collects X in taxes and pays Y in expenditures. How you do the math is irrelevant.

Ultimately we need drastic changes in how this country is run to ensure that social security and Medicare do not collapse. I’ve outlined 3 things that would significantly change our course. We don’t have to accept a declining nation.

[thethe]

So it is indeed possible that thethes real time judgement can be wrong

Welcome to the club

Remember the lesson

Keep pretending I didn’t say all that time ago I wasn’t sure what desantis foreign policy would be.

[thethe]

No! No! No!

That would be reforming it.

And thethe, trump, Biden, AOC, and Bernie are clear that reforming it are anti American!

It's fine on its own! Nothing needs to change!!!

In 2033, **** all those old people!

Show me where I said nothing needs to change.

I’ll wait while you struggle to come up with a word salad to defend that hysterically silly point. Maybe ask me to explain in my own words again…

[chop2chip]

There is a legal/accounting concept called substance over form. The government collects X in taxes and pays Y in expenditures. How you do the math is irrelevant.

Ultimately we need drastic changes in how this country is run to ensure that social security and Medicare do not collapse. I’ve outlined 3 things that would significantly change our course. We don’t have to accept a declining nation.

If required, would you raise income tax rates to fund social security?

[sturg33]

Show me where I said nothing needs to change.

I’ll wait while you struggle to come up with a word salad to defend that hysterically silly point. Maybe ask me to explain in my own words again…

We have argued about social security several times

You have blasted RDS for saying that something has to change for the math to work

I have said the same thing

You have said we just need more jobs and the problem is solved

Unfortunately... The math doesn't work for you trunp

[thethe]

If required, would you raise income tax rates to fund social security?

I’d first exhaust all other courses of action like significant policy changes I’ve outlined. Then I’d explore closing loopholes like buy/borrow/die that benefit the wealthy. The I would increase marginal rates on the highest income earning brackets. And as a last resort yes I’d raise taxes to ensure Americans have a life of dignity.

But in my world my three policy descriptions would make such a drastic change none of that would be needed.

[thethe]

We have argued about social security several times

You have blasted RDS for saying that something has to change for the math to work

I have said the same thing

You have said we just need more jobs and the problem is solved

Unfortunately... The math doesn't work for you trunp

No no no - your change is privatizing and risking financially illiterate people’s livelihoods at the whims of market cycles.

My changes are holistic policy changes in how we operate as a country and whk we care about more. The donors or the people.

[sturg33]

Keep pretending I didn’t say all that time ago I wasn’t sure what desantis foreign policy would be.

I'm not pretending.

I have multiple posts of you saying he will be a great president.

Not you some think so after trump told you

So I think it's fair to say your real time judgement back then was wrong

This shouldn't be embarrassing. We all get a lot wrong .

I once thought trump was the guy to cut defense.soending and pardon heroes... But I was wrong. It happens to the best of us

[sturg33]

No no no - your change is privatizing and risking financially illiterate people’s livelihoods at the whims of market cycles.

My changes are holistic policy changes in how we operate as a country and whk we care about more. The donors or the people.

Can you share with me Trump's detailed social security policy that I can take a look at?

[thethe]

I'm not pretending.

I have multiple posts of you saying he will be a great president.

Not you some think so after trump told you

So I think it's fair to say your real time judgement back then was wrong

This shouldn't be embarrassing. We all get a lot wrong .

I once thought trump was the guy to cut defense.soending and pardon heroes... But I was wrong. It happens to the best of us

So you’re going to pretend while I was making those comments I said I’m not aware what desabtis foreign policy would be and now getting a glimpse of that it may change my feeling.

It’s cool sturg.

[thethe]

Can you share with me Trump's detailed social security policy that I can take a look at?

Building a wall. Deporting illegals. Ending foreign wars. Bring jobs back from communist China.

How’s that?

[chop2chip]

I’d first exhaust all other courses of action like significant policy changes I’ve outlined. Then I’d explore closing loopholes like buy/borrow/die that benefit the wealthy. The I would increase marginal rates on the highest income earning brackets. And as a last resort yes I’d raise taxes to ensure Americans have a life of dignity.

But in my world my three policy descriptions would make such a drastic change none of that would be needed.

As long as you know where this road ends, I can respect that.

Personally, I don’t see a philosophical difference between that and student loan forgiveness. I don’t think the hardworking blue collar work that gets a pension through their work and saved for their retirement should have to fund others who didn’t plan and prepare.

[thethe]

As long as you know where this road ends, I can respect that.

Personally, I don’t see a philosophical difference between that and student loan forgiveness. I don’t think the hardworking blue collar work that gets a pension through their work and saved for their retirement should have to fund others who didn’t plan and prepare.

Student loan forgiveness to me is completely different because because the one making the payments are for their own personal benefit and other than minuscule tenth level incidental benefits they are the only ones that receive any “value”.

In addition, it’s yet another example of how policy created the mess and not the concept of student lending itself.

[sturg33]

Building a wall. Deporting illegals. Ending foreign wars. Bring jobs back from communist China.

How’s that?

For me that is awful. I don't know how that solves problem.

But you're just a message board poster. Donald Trump wants my money and vote. I googles his social security policy and came up with nothing.

Can you share it with me?

[thethe]

For me that is awful. I don't know how that solves problem.

But you're just a message board poster. Donald Trump wants my money and vote. I googles his social security policy and came up with nothing.

Can you share it with me?

Well I’m sorry it’s difficult for you to understand how those policies greatly impact and benefit social security and Medicare.

[sturg33]

So you’re going to pretend while I was making those comments I said I’m not aware what desabtis foreign policy would be and now getting a glimpse of that it may change my feeling.

It’s cool sturg.

No my entire point is that thethe had bad judgement about a person 6 months Ago

Trump has shown you the light

And that's perfectly ok

I just hope Putin does not see Trump's comments on his invasion of Ukraine. That will be really awkward