Official official offseason thread

[msstate7]

Braves are really spinning it hard that he can handle the position and putting all the praise or blame on Washington.

Praise, maybe.
Blame, I don't think so

[Bluedevilruss]

I guess I don’t get a boost of confidence on someone doing basic drills that little leaguers do. Nothing about arm strength or range. I mean I would feel better if he threw it in a trash can from center field personally.

Crime Dog has entered the chat.

[Hulavol]

Seems to me that if he couldn’t handle the position —that Wash of all people would say so, and not waste his precious time on a lost- cause project. So from that I am very encouraged.

I maintain that Grissy will out perform Dansby at the plate this season.

[CyYoung31]

Seems to me that if he couldn’t handle the position —that Wash of all people would say so, and not waste his precious time on a lost- cause project. So from that I am very encouraged.

I maintain that Grissy will out perform Dansby at the plate this season.

My bet is that he and Arcia will at least match Dansby’s offensive production.

[Enscheff]

My prediction for Grissom is that he's going to be very mediocre, and lots of people are going to love him for "playing the game the right way".

And that's going to be just fine for this team while he's cheap.

[CyYoung31]

DeGrom held out of first work out with side tightness. Unreal.

[thewupk]

DeGrom held out of first work out with side tightness. Unreal.

He's done

[Hudson2]

Stupid Rangers. 5/185 ouch.

[GovClintonTyree]

DeGrom held out of first work out with side tightness. Unreal.

Methinks the Rangers better get used to this.

[bravesfanforlife88]

Methinks the Rangers better get used to this.

Nationals as well. Strasburg had a set back in his rehab from thoracic outlet syndrome. There is no timetable for his return. Honestly, the dude may never pitch again.

Making $35m a year between now and 2026, including $11.43m/year that will be deferred plus interest...... ouch

[50PoundHead]

My prediction for Grissom is that he's going to be very mediocre, and lots of people are going to love him for "playing the game the right way".

And that's going to be just fine for this team while he's cheap.

I think he has a reasonable floor, but I don't know if he's got much of a ceiling. As for his defense, it will be interesting to see what the deeper stats indicate. The eye test on physically big shortstops can often be really misleading.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Tim McCarver had passed away

[50PoundHead]

Tim McCarver had passed away

I always thought he did a reasonably good job as an analyst although he tipped too heavily to the traditionalist side much of the time. He'll always bring back bad memories from when he went on and on and on and on after Wohlers gave up the crucial home run to Jim Leyritz way back when and McCarver just kept muttering and sputtering about Wohlers using his "third-best pitch" in a key situation.

[Russ2dollas]

My prediction for Grissom is that he's going to be very mediocre, and lots of people are going to love him for "playing the game the right way".

And that's going to be just fine for this team while he's cheap.

I just keep remembering the struggles Dansby had early on defense.

Then I wonder if that makes me feel better about Wash's ability to teach or worse that Grissom could really cost us on defense.

Kid is going to have to hit.

[Enscheff]

Brewers beat Corbin in the arb hearing over a difference of $750k...$10M vs $10.75M.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/...p-damaged.html

“There’s no denying that the relationship is definitely hurt,” the right-hander said. “There’s really no way of getting around that. Obviously, we’re professionals and we’re going to go out there and do our job. Keep doing what I can every fifth day that I go out there. But some of the things that are said, for instance, basically putting me at the forefront of why we didn’t make the postseason last year — that’s something that probably doesn’t need to be said.”

What a completely moronic way to treat a franchise anchor over such a measly sum. I just don't understand how teams can be so stupid.

[bravesfanforlife88]

Brewers beat Corbin in the arb hearing over a difference of $750k...$10M vs $10.75M.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/...p-damaged.html

“There’s no denying that the relationship is definitely hurt,” the right-hander said. “There’s really no way of getting around that. Obviously, we’re professionals and we’re going to go out there and do our job. Keep doing what I can every fifth day that I go out there. But some of the things that are said, for instance, basically putting me at the forefront of why we didn’t make the postseason last year — that’s something that probably doesn’t need to be said.”

What a completely moronic way to treat a franchise anchor over such a measly sum. I just don't understand how teams can be so stupid.

If i'm not mistaken, this is his last Arb year before free agency is that correct? If there was any doubt that he was leaving, it's pretty solid now.

[JxnMissFan]

Brewers beat Corbin in the arb hearing over a difference of $750k...$10M vs $10.75M.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/...p-damaged.html

“There’s no denying that the relationship is definitely hurt,” the right-hander said. “There’s really no way of getting around that. Obviously, we’re professionals and we’re going to go out there and do our job. Keep doing what I can every fifth day that I go out there. But some of the things that are said, for instance, basically putting me at the forefront of why we didn’t make the postseason last year — that’s something that probably doesn’t need to be said.”

What a completely moronic way to treat a franchise anchor over such a measly sum. I just don't understand how teams can be so stupid.

I agree it’s a bad way to treat a player. But, from the Brewers perspective does it really matter. There is no way the Brewers have the money to match what he will earn as an FA.

I’m sure if the Brewers offer him the biggest FA contract he will find some way to forgive them.

[The Chosen One]

I agree it’s a bad way to treat a player. But, from the Brewers perspective does it really matter. There is no way the Brewers have the money to match what he will earn as an FA.

I’m sure if the Brewers offer him the biggest FA contract he will find some way to forgive them.

Pretty much.

Corbin is just doing it so when he leaves, he won't look like the bad guy completely when he takes the biggest deal on the market as he shouild. I doubt the Brewers have anywhere near the amount of money to spend on him as he'll command.

[Super]

Y’all see the video of Wash and Grissom MLB put out today ? I’d post the link, but don’t have the talent for such an operation.

Video is very good and very encouraging

i’ve seen way too many off-season videos of Ben Simmons hitting 3 ball after 3 ball to believe in off-season videos.

[chop2chip]

I agree it’s a bad way to treat a player. But, from the Brewers perspective does it really matter. There is no way the Brewers have the money to match what he will earn as an FA.

I’m sure if the Brewers offer him the biggest FA contract he will find some way to forgive them.

Probably.

But comparable market-sized teams have found ways to extend their stars (Cleveland with Rameriz comes to mind). Alienating them now basically removes that option entirely.

And besides extension ramifications, if your star players key takeaway is that the team blames you for missing the playoffs, that’s probably not worth the $700k you saved.