The Coronavirus, not the beer

[thethe]

OK, so hopefully a fair question, if the DoD knew there was a real threat of a virus like unto the Corona back in 2017 and warned both the President and Congress, which they said they did, why wasn't something done about it back then? Isn't it their job to protect us from all enemies, not just the big bad CCP?

Not sure what could have been done then but yes in hindsight then government ay levels failed us.

It revealed just how moronic the political and expert class really are. Destroyed the economy for nothing.

[Runnin]

Really have to wonder if there is an underlying motive to the shutdown movement.

Team Reality

[thethe]

Team Reality

No evidence to show lockdowns are effective. It's actually quite the opposite now that it HELPS the spread.

[thethe]

Guess musk is an idiot now

[Runnin]

Not sure what could have been done then but yes in hindsight then government ay levels failed us.

It revealed just how moronic the political and expert class really are. Destroyed the economy for nothing.

Your way of debating and discussing issues is moronic. Your obsession with trying to frame everything in one particular way demeans and disguises any good opinion you might one day have. You're like a kid running ahead of everyone saying "See! See! It's just like I said it was." Then we arrive to find it's the same BS as usual.

Politicians will be politicians. Trump is several shades worse.

It's the job of the President to give states and the citizenry the best and most timely information available, from experts. And when the best info changes, you change with it. But when he starts out with such blatant lies like Trump always does, no one can trust him.

??? Who do you want to replace the politicians and expert class with? Steve Bannon? And what is he other than another expert politician.

[Runnin]

Guess musk is an idiot now

Until the full picture of how the virus attacks the body is learned, any person who had Covid at the time of health related death (non-accidental or homicide, etc.) should be assumed to have died of a death related to Covid. It massively attacks the lungs, shuts down breathing and coagulates the blood. Pretty much everything.

[thethe]

Your way of debating and discussing issues is moronic. Your obsession with trying to frame everything in one particular way demeans and disguises any good opinion you might one day have. You're like a kid running ahead of everyone saying "See! See! It's just like I said it was." Then we arrive to find it's the same BS as usual.

Politicians will be politicians. Trump is several shades worse.

It's the job of the President to give states and the citizenry the best and most timely information available, from experts. And when the best info changes, you change with it. But when he starts out with such blatant lies like Trump always does, no one can trust him.

??? Who do you want to replace the politicians and expert class with? Steve Bannon? And what is he other than another expert politician.

Steve Bannon woild be better than almost everyone on Washington hands down.

[Metaphysicist]

No evidence to show lockdowns are effective. It's actually quite the opposite now that it HELPS the spread.

lol, seriously maybe log off for awhile.

[thethe]

Until the full picture of how the virus attacks the body is learned, any person who had Covid at the time of health related death (non-accidental or homicide, etc.) should be assumed to have died of a death related to Covid. It massively attacks the lungs, shuts down breathing and coagulates the blood. Pretty much everything.

I agree. Have to keep the people afraid so theyll stay in and rat on people that go outside.

Also remember. Orange man bad. He killed all those old people. Oh wait...that was democratic politicians.

Managed reasonably the desthbrate would have been around .1. It's a bad flu that was managed dreadfully.

[thethe]

lol, seriously maybe log off for awhile.

Where is the evidence? Why have infections still been high in NYC a month since the lockdown.

I hope you'll come back to this thread when its all.settled and no dissapear like the collusion truthers.

[Runnin]

Nursing home care and cleanliness has been an issue for a long time.

I sadly had to watch my former wife's grandma go through alzheimers for a few years. So many issues whether through general administrative matters or just overall policy and adaptability. She had a roommate who would be overly physical due to her illnesses and it took a long time to get a transfer completed.

I think overall it should have made a lot of sense to NOT put CcP virus cases in an enclosed area with the most at risk.

This was a failure of epic proportions and full investigations need to be done.

Nursing homes are expensive and profit rules in this economy. Did you just make an argument for more federal regulation?

[thethe]

Nursing homes are expensive and profit rules in this economy. Did you just make an argument for more federal regulation?

It was a governmental policy that led to their deaths. Last thing we need is more government

[Runnin]

Steve Bannon woild be better than almost everyone on Washington hands down.

Even his fat, disheveled self could hurdle that high bar. Washington would be significantly better with the subtraction of one man. Trump is the turd in the soup ruining everything. Without him I think the federal response would've been more in line with normal dysfunction.

[Metaphysicist]

Interesting study looking at the different demographics of people admitted for influenza over the past number of years v. people admitted for COVID-19. One takeaway:

Compared to 52,422 individuals hospitalised with influenza, patients admitted with COVID-19 were more likely male, younger, and, in the US, had fewer comorbidities and lower medication use.

[Carp]

No evidence. Sure thing. Pennsylvania got caught over inflating. We incentized the behavior

Lol. Just stop.

https://whyy.org/articles/why-so-man...er-be-counted/

[thethe]

Lol. Just stop.

https://whyy.org/articles/why-so-man...er-be-counted/

Yeah, I've read all the nonsense about undercounting. You believe that and enjoy.

Whatever it takes to keep you afraid for a virus that isnt as deadly as it's made out to be but when you put old people in the firing range people will die.

[thethe]

Interesting study looking at the different demographics of people admitted for influenza over the past number of years v. people admitted for COVID-19. One takeaway:

Wouldnt this lead one to believe that more white people got the flu shot and developed more immunity to the nom novel influenza strains?

[Oklahomahawk]

Not sure what could have been done then but yes in hindsight then government ay levels failed us.

It revealed just how moronic the political and expert class really are. Destroyed the economy for nothing.

So, you mean the Dems and any Repub who didn't fully support Trump let us down, or am I misunderstanding you?

[Oklahomahawk]

Guess musk is an idiot now

I think that's a perfectly reasonable approach and statement by Musk, but how exactly do we go about determining which is which?

[Runnin]

Why is the govt stockpiling masks now? They are more concerned with protecting senators and the military in a future pandemic than protecting citizens and health workers in this one.