if you, an oppressed male in this world, don't like itOriginally Posted by sturg33
i would suggest pulling out
if you, an oppressed male in this world, don't like it
i would suggest pulling out
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
But the poor woman gets to **** risk free.
It's hardly ****ing risk free. Abortion is an operation, not to mention the mental scarring the entire thing will have on him. Stop being such a misogynist prick.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Why would it be mental scarring if you're just killing a parasite?
This is why no one takes you seriously.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Care to explain?
I believe goldfly has described a human fetus numerous times as a parasite.
If it's something that could "mentally scar" someone, perhaps we shouldn't be doing it??
Perhaps we should let the person who has to make the decision make it rather then legislate them not to.
Again not shocked at the hypocrisy that a small government conservative wants to control something they don't even remotely understand.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Nice job running away from my question.
This is one of your lamer arguments. "YOU'RE a HYPOCRITE BECAUSE YOU'RE A SMALL GOVERNMENT CONSERVATIVE!!!!"
The role of our government is to protect our rights. One of our rights is to not get murdered bc some random teenage girl doesn't want to deal with the consequences of her actions.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
How in the living hell is that a straw man?
While running away from my direct question, you accused me of being a hypocrite, and I explained why that is not the case.
How many times do you need to get owned in this argument before you just stop trying?
How is that a straw man? You said "One of our rights is to not get murdered bc some random teenage girl doesn't want to deal with the consequences of her actions."
Let's look at a straw man fallacy
1. Person A has position X.
2. Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).
3. Person B attacks position Y.
4. Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.
Your argument is stupid, and you should feel bad for making that statement.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
You have a habit of insulting people when you look foolish on an argument.
My argument is that all humans deserve the right to live... the government should protect that.
You're argument is that a life is only sacred if the mother says so
No that's not my argument at all.
And what makes one human? By the DNA standard would you prosecute someone for jacking off as semen has human DNA?
ANyway, your argument is making up what my argument is. Basically you believe that as a man, you believe the government can legislate a woman's body.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Nah... the government can't tell a woman not to have sex.
Once she is does, the government should say she can't mutilate a human if she gets pregnant.
I know personal responsibility is tough in your world.
The hypocrisy in the law is nearly as funny as yours. If a woman who is 3 weeks pregnant wants to have the child, it's considered a precious human being and anyone who hurts it could be tried for murder or malpractice.
But the uneducated, irresponsible woman who doesn't want the child, can suck it out with a vacuum.
Makes sense
All kind of dumb in that.
Yeah - another laughable comment that wasn't even worth acknowledging
Just to stir the pot a bit, this comes from www.urbandictionary.com
fetus
1. a young child/person; but can also be used to refer to anyone younger than yourself
2. someone who acts or looks like a small child
3. someone who is too afraid to do something
4. small
But just to be fair, and maybe a little creepy.
Top Definition
fetus
Main entree in a delicious buffet.
That fetus was delicious, Joe.
Does being stupid come easy or did you have to try really hard to get to this level of logic?
Again, what makes one a human, what makes one a human as defined by murder? You won't answer these questions because it would paint you into a corner where you say it's got the DNA, even if it cannot live outside of the womb. If a woman has a miscarriage should she be charged for involuntary manslaughter? Something she did while pregnant almost certainly lead to that miscarriage, so by your logic, she should be charged.
Nice little last quip there. Funny how people harp on personal responsibility when they're telling others what to do. Maybe personal responsibility is the responsibility of that person, not yours.
The hypocrisy in the law is nearly as funny as yours. If a woman who is 3 weeks pregnant wants to have the child, it's considered a precious human being and anyone who hurts it could be tried for murder or malpractice.
But the uneducated, irresponsible woman who doesn't want the child, can suck it out with a vacuum.
Makes sense[/QUOTE]
How is it hypocrisy? If I give away something, and someone steals something, in both scenarios I'm without the object, but they describe 2 entirely different things. Scenario A I didn't want it and gave it away, Scenario B I wanted it and someone took it from me. Stop being obtuse, though I'm starting to think that this is 100% the norm with you. Being wrong.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Do what now?
I'm not answering bc it's a dumb question. What makes a human is a fertilized egg. I couldn't care less if "it can't live outside the womb." It eventually will without intervention. You've already been proven wrong about how you can't even give a date to where your not OK with it... Remember your "care and caution" comment during the 2nd trimester? LOL
Again - more nonsensical drivel from you thinking you're making a point. This is like saying not a single law could be made because you're dealing with others. Hey - I don't think people should be allowed to steal from others. But I guess I shouldn't hold that opinion bc it's not talking about my own personal responsibility... quit trying to change the subject
Because it's redefining what the "it" is. In your dumb example, the "it" never changes, only the ownership of "it." In the example of pregnancy, the "it" is all that matters, and it changes based on who you talk to. It's pure hypocrisy. Having said all of that, even if your dumb example is true, you're implying that the mother owns the baby. If that were the case, how could you then make the argument that a third trimester abortion should not be allowed? And you still can't see the hypocrisy??
This has been your go-to line lately - especially when you have no leg to stand on. Got any new material?
Now you may recall I asked you a question earlier, and asked you to answer it a couple times since then. You've avoided it to no one's surprise. I'll ask again: Why would an abortion be mentally scarring if you're not killing a human being?
sturg33 (10-13-2015)
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