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[57Brave]

There have been shootings at occupy wall street events. So yeah at least some of them were armed. This protest will likely wind up being less deadly than the occupy wall st protest. And less poopy.

a random person in a crowd with a handgun - (as wrong as I find it) is not equivalent to (another false notion of both sises do it - if you will) organized armed guards at the entrance gates and sharp shooters in fre towers and a promise to kill and be killed
there is armed then, there is armed

C'mon Wes you know that
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Well, organized until it was revealed they forgot to bring snacks

[Krgrecw]

a random person in a crowd with a handgun - (as wrong as I find it) is not equivalent to (another false notion of both sises do it - if you will) organized armed guards at the entrance gates and sharp shooters in fre towers and a promise to kill and be killed
there is armed then, there is armed

C'mon Wes you know that
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Well, organized until it was revealed they forgot to bring snacks

Don't people have a right to be armed? Until these people point thier weapons at others it's no worse than what the liberals did in the Wisconsin state house.

[jpx7]

Don't people have a right to be armed? Until these people point thier weapons at others it's no worse than what the liberals did in the Wisconsin state house.

That was ****ed up, too.

[Krgrecw]

That was ****ed up, too.

Yeah it was. But 57 didn't get his panties in a wad over that.

[57Brave]

Don't people have a right to be armed? Until these people point thier weapons at others it's no worse than what the liberals did in the Wisconsin state house.

[57Brave]

Don't people have a right to be armed? Until these people point thier weapons at others it's no worse than what the liberals did in the Wisconsin state house.

you did invoke the word weapons, correct?

I think you answered your own question
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as far as a right to be armed, yes they do. In a "well regulated" sense.

I see this episode all about anti-regulation as most all RW causes.
Don't Tread On Me and all that illiterate - pie in the sky sophomoric BS

[Oklahomahawk]

OK so if I have this straight these nimrods hate the government so much and are so ticked off at its stupidity and excesses that they decided to "take action and make a point" for freedom. Is this fairly close?

[50PoundHead]

OK so if I have this straight these nimrods hate the government so much and are so ticked off at its stupidity and excesses that they decided to "take action and make a point" for freedom. Is this fairly close?

'bout it.

[Garmel]

OK so if I have this straight these nimrods hate the government so much and are so ticked off at its stupidity and excesses that they decided to "take action and make a point" for freedom. Is this fairly close?

This is the kind of crap why you and I get into it on occasion. I like how you go on about others being brainwashed(especially Christians) and then you type Daily Kos/Huffpo/TPM garbage. Try to educate yourself to what's going on to ranchers across the nation.

[goldfly]

if they were brown or black, they would already be in jail or dead

[57Brave]

Try to educate yourself to what's going on to ranchers across the nation.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/.../?ex_cid=538fb

[zitothebrave]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/.../?ex_cid=538fb

To add to that. The fee to graze on BLM land, is 1.69 per animal per month. What are the odds they wouldn't pay a heck of a lot more in property taxes or to buy the property than they're paying to graze on federally maintained lands? Is it the best system? Probably not. But it could be way more expensive. I know folks who rent out their land for cattle grazing, and I bet they didn't only receiving 200 bucks for it.

[57Brave]

Imagine the Hammonds face palm today - when only 4-5 days ago they stood a chance of receiving a Presidential pardon (?)
The more info that comes out -- this whole stunt is just surreal. Down to them forgetting to pack a lunch
and this :

emptywheel ‏@emptywheel 9m9 minutes ago

emptywheel Retweeted Michael Calderone

Media outlet proves its "objectivity" by calling valet car and construction owner-run protest "ranchers"

......

I mock

[Garmel]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/.../?ex_cid=538fb

http://www.texastribune.org/2015/11/...le-feds-court/ Do you want more examples? I have plenty. Like I said I actually have seen this first hand. I know what I'm talking about. You don't. Damn, I wish these ranchers were African-American....wait, i know. Let's make them Muslims. You'd actually give a **** then.

[Garmel]

Let me be clear on one thing. While I can sympathize with their position I do not believe they have a right to take over a federal building. As of now they haven't pointed their weapons at anyone. The minute they do they need to be mowed down. However, If both sides keep their cool this can be be solved peacefully.

[Oklahomahawk]

This is the kind of crap why you and I get into it on occasion. I like how you go on about others being brainwashed(especially Christians) and then you type Daily Kos/Huffpo/TPM garbage. Try to educate yourself to what's going on to ranchers across the nation.

I do not read the Huffpo or the DailyKos and while I may know what the TPM is I am not familiar with it in abbreviation form. Why don't you educate me so that we don't "get into it" about this. I do not see where I have been overly harsh to anyone here, except those who do stupid stuff like this. Go ahead and tell me how things are for ranchers. My wife has so relatives who ranch up in the sticks of OK. Tell me your side and we'll go from there. Fair enough?

[57Brave]

then why are you here ?

You want to talk about ranchers rights - that is all well and good. But you yourself just made the distinction between the issues of the occupiers and the plight of western ranchers.

Guess this means I get to bring up how the (R) Governor of Michigan poisoned the drinking water in Flint , Michigan.
There too we can talk about government overreach --
I mean after all, I warned y'all he was a dick 5-6 years ago.

[BedellBrave]

I'm late to the party and am not up on the story other than on one point: the Bundies aren't Christians, from what I know.

[The Chosen One]

I do not read the Huffpo or the DailyKos and while I may know what the TPM is I am not familiar with it in abbreviation form. Why don't you educate me so that we don't "get into it" about this. I do not see where I have been overly harsh to anyone here, except those who do stupid stuff like this. Go ahead and tell me how things are for ranchers. My wife has so relatives who ranch up in the sticks of OK. Tell me your side and we'll go from there. Fair enough?

Remember this guy

[BedellBrave]

FYI: Link