Another School Shooting

[zitothebrave]

MOAR COPS.

MOAR GUNS.

Just like how you treat an AIDS patient by shooting 'em all up with HIV.

(Edit: And to be clarion: I'm not necessarily arguing the opposite of this MOAR COP / MORE GUNS impulse is panacea, I just can't process why there is always such a knee-jerk in certain circles to double-down on weapons availability and institutionalized violence whenever something horrible and violent happens in this nation.[/i]

I want to know how you're gonna pay for those cops? And do you have cops in private schools as well? Many issues with that.

[goldfly]

If by "didn't work" you mean didn't stop every murder using a gun, then yes, they "didn't work." Course that's a naive standard.

Whatcha want to try gold?

Banning shotguns?

Violent video games?

Violent movies?

Violent song lyrics?

Psychotropic drugs?

Works real good in the drug war doesn't it? And during Prohibition. Making stuff illegal and all.

Visit the homes of all disgruntle students and remove the guns and knives?

Put multiple cops in every school (you ought to like that since you think as highly as you do of cops)?
Metal detectors in every entryway in every school?

Bullet proof walls, doors, and windows in all new construction?

How about giving all the kiddos "A"s and nice trophies?

What do you want to try?

i don't think i would do any of this

*I would want to do some soul searching as a nation if the 2nd amendment is outdated
*I would require everyone that buys any type of gun to be required a rigorous gun safety course
*require safes to be had and be used
*outlaw gun shows
*set some type of national age for purchase (not sure where i would set it as of right now)
*rigorous background checks against violent offenders (not sure where i would say where to start with someone that is a "violent offender" but it wouldn't be a charge that is easy to be charged with) and checks for mentally ill
*it shouldn't take less than an hour to go in and get a gun and shouldn't take a day either etc.
*i would free up space in prisons by getting rid of non violent offenders and would lock up people with strict sentences for breaking gun laws
*make blackmarket gun sellers and owners some of the toughest sentences that aren't murder,rape and child molestation etc in this country


what i have come up with thus far and it is far from being perfect or the solution.

like most things, education is a key to a lot of problems

i do think there is some truth to this: I also think that it will take "heart" work - work done through loving neighbors, family members, ministers, counselors, etc. Government can have a role, but it can't do and shouldn't do everything.

i have no problem with guns personally. I own 1 and i could own anything under the sun and it wouldn't be a problem but i also don't think my freedoms are being stolen by saying we don't need to deal with this problem anymore and be tougher about it.

i never once while i was in Japan or Australia or New Zealand had the thought of "i better watch out" by going down this alley or whatever cause i thought i might get shot. i can't say that here back home and that is sad

[Krgrecw]

Yeah but look where you traveled. It all comes down to where you are. If you were certain parts of Brazil , Cape Town, Haiti, you'd be scared. Same for certain parts of the inner cities in America.

You won't hesitate about going for a walk at 1am in BFE, Iowa but I'm sure there's plenty of streets in Americas inner cities you wouldn't walk at that time

[goldfly]

It all comes down to where you are. Same for certain parts of the inner cities in America.

You won't hesitate about going for a walk at 1am in BFE, Iowa but I'm sure there's plenty of streets in Americas inner cities you wouldn't walk at that time

that's my point

we can do better

[Tapate50]

I want to know how you're gonna pay for those cops? And do you have cops in private schools as well? Many issues with that.

Pull those cops off the street since all they are doing is badgering the public and endangering lives (like the thread dedicated to bad cop behavior implies).

Let kids see these guys every day and get to know them. It would create a TON of good will toward police for our youth and possibly try to turn around the F' da poh lice mentality.

[goldfly]

Pull those cops off the street since all they are doing is badgering the public and endangering lives (like the thread dedicated to bad cop behavior implies).

Let kids see these guys every day and get to know them. It would create a TON of good will toward police for our youth and possibly try to turn around the F' da poh lice mentality.

i agree with this

have them "walk the beat" so he/she/they(a small part) is part of the community of a certain area.

but police themselves drive the f.uck the police mentality. it is an us vs them since they no longer protect and serve

[sturg33]

Pull those cops off the street since all they are doing is badgering the public and endangering lives (like the thread dedicated to bad cop behavior implies).

Let kids see these guys every day and get to know them. It would create a TON of good will toward police for our youth and possibly try to turn around the F' da poh lice mentality.

But then who would be parked behind the bushes looking for people who roll through stop signs???

[Tapate50]

But then who would be parked behind the bushes looking for people who roll through stop signs???

Old people.

[Tapate50]

i agree with this

have them "walk the beat" so he/she/they(a small part) is part of the community of a certain area.

but police themselves drive the f.uck the police mentality. it is an us vs them since they no longer protect and serve

I can't id with the last part... What the cops have to deal with around here is crazy.

[jpx7]

Pull those cops off the street since all they are doing is badgering the public and endangering lives (like the thread dedicated to bad cop behavior implies).

This is actually a pretty decent idea. The more we as citizens – both police and non-police – begin to (once again) see the constabulary as community servants and not the domestic military, the better.

[goldfly]

along the cop line


sentences for cops and elected officials should be 10 fold for them compared to a citizen when they break a law

it shouldn't be protecting them

[cajunrevenge]

The obvious solution is to ban schools. No schools no school shootings.

[gilesfan]

Luckily there was an armed deputy at the school that responded quickly.