Global Events & Politics Überthread

[mqt]

So then considering your position what is Israel to do when Hamas attacks and runs back to their human shields?

I’m frankly not qualified to come up with war plans, but I’d start with not blowing up those human shields with bombs.

[thethe]

I’m frankly not qualified to come up with war plans, but I’d start with not blowing up those human shields with bombs.

Nice cop out - your position leads to the inevitable conclusion of doing nothing.

And thats really what the globalist left wants out of Israel.

[mqt]

Nice cop out - your position leads to the inevitable conclusion of doing nothing.

And thats really what the globalist left wants out of Israel.

How is it a cop out to just be against causing mass civilian casualties?

[thethe]

How is it a cop out to just be against causing mass civilian casualties?

Because the result of your position is Israel doing nothing because anything they do to respond to senseless killing is not justified in your eyes since Hamas PURPOSEFULLY puts innocent people in the way.

[mqt]

Because the result of your position is Israel doing nothing because anything they do to respond to senseless killing is not justified in your eyes since Hamas PURPOSEFULLY puts innocent people in the way.

I’d like to believe there exists an option anywhere between letting Hamas blow things up without consequence and blowing up a bunch of Palestinians.

[thethe]

I’d like to believe there exists an option anywhere between letting Hamas blow things up without consequence and blowing up a bunch of Palestinians.

In a make believe world where hamas doesn’t use their own people as human shields where their deaths are preferred because elicits sympathy globally from the naive global left.

[sturg33]

I’d like to believe there exists an option anywhere between letting Hamas blow things up without consequence and blowing up a bunch of Palestinians.

According to reports, Israel has instructed civilians to vacate the area and Hamas is instructing them to stay.

You know why

It's strange to me how closely aligned leftists are with this brutality.

[sturg33]

Brutal

[sturg33]

These are the same kids who believe misgendering someone is an act of violence.

The world is ****ed. Leftism has truly destroyed young people

[sturg33]

Holy ****. The future is ****ed.

[mqt]

According to reports, Israel has instructed civilians to vacate the area and Hamas is instructing them to stay.

You know why

It's strange to me how closely aligned leftists are with this brutality.

Warning civilians to leave but then blowing them up when they don’t should not absolve Israel of some blame for those deaths.

[sturg33]

Warning civilians to leave but then blowing them up when they don’t should not absolve Israel of some blame for those deaths.

It is apparent that your preferred outcome here is a brutal terror attack being unresponsded to.

[thethe]

It is apparent that your preferred outcome here is a brutal terror attack being unresponsded to.

And an Israel that ceases to exist.

[mqt]

It is apparent that your preferred outcome here is a brutal terror attack being unresponsded to.

It must be exhausting living without nuance.

[thethe]

It must be exhausting living without nuance.

And yet you still have no posed one thing Israel could do that wooof be palatable to you.

[mqt]

And yet you still have no posed one thing Israel could do that wooof be palatable to you.

Commit to a longer, more drawn-out strategy to find and arrest/kill Hamas militants that causes less civilian casualties and also for the long term reconsider the way it handles Palestinians in Gaza.

[chop2chip]

It must be exhausting living without nuance.

Nuance is crucial. I don’t think Israel should obliterate innocent civilians. But they have to respond.

[thethe]

Commit to a longer, more drawn-out strategy to find and arrest/kill Hamas militants that causes less civilian casualties and also for the long term reconsider the way it handles Palestinians in Gaza.

So still nothing you have proposed other than a vague “do better”.

[chop2chip]

Commit to a longer, more drawn-out strategy to find and arrest/kill Hamas militants that causes less civilian casualties and also for the long term reconsider the way it handles Palestinians in Gaza.

There’s no way the last part is palatable. You’re incentivizing future attacks if you reward them

[thethe]

There’s no way the last part is palatable. You’re incentivizing future attacks if you reward them

In his worldview it’s Israel that’s the aggressor and needs to change.