oppression AND tyranny

[nsacpi]

it's funny that you freely and proudly admit that you at least support temporarily authoritarianism and tyranny

"Hey, it might not be forever! so the people who can't leave their homes, and the people put into the internment camps, and the people getting maced and shot and arrested for not having a mask on, have nothing to complain about!! 2 years and counting of their liberties being destroy is a good deal!"

I'm not the one who has hysterically and strenuously been waving the banner of the slippery slope toward never-ending tyranny. But I guess someone has to do the Lord's work around here. Keep up the good work.

[sturg33]

I'm not the one who has hysterically and strenuously been waving the banner of the slippery slope toward never-ending tyranny. But I guess someone has to do the Lord's work around here. Keep up the good work.

1. Why are you OK with temporary tyranny?

2. Has Australia's tyranny ended yet?

[nsacpi]

1. Why are you OK with temporary tyranny?

2. Has Australia's tyranny ended yet?

I think Australia's basic strategy given some of their geographical advantages is one that has worked well for them. An no it is not tyranny, temporary or otherwise. But I look forward to the denouement of your slippery slope toward perpetual tyranny theory. Keep up the good work.

[sturg33]

Hahahahahahahahhahahahah

There is no line for the covid cowards

[sturg33]

I suppose I'll ask a 30th time but what would need to happen for you to say they went too far, in addition to shooting puppies (which they have done as well)

[nsacpi]

I suppose I'll ask a 30th time but what would need to happen for you to say they went too far, in addition to shooting puppies (which they have done as well)

abusing the elderly is ok with me...but shooting puppies no...that's where i draw the line...i think they made a mistake there

[sturg33]

But Trump was a fascist right? Bc he sent those troops in to break up a protest?

[nsacpi]

But Trump was a fascist right? Bc he sent those troops in to break up a protest?

his interest was in throwing gasoline on the fire...he wasn't very good at presidenting, your extravagent admiration notwithstanding

General Mathis put it well:

In Union There Is Strength
I have watched this week's unfolding events, angry and appalled. The words "Equal Justice Under Law" are carved in the pediment of the United States Supreme Court. This is precisely what protesters are rightly demanding. It is a wholesome and unifying demand—one that all of us should be able to get behind. We must not be distracted by a small number of lawbreakers. The protests are defined by tens of thousands of people of conscience who are insisting that we live up to our values—our values as people and our values as a nation.

When I joined the military, some 50 years ago, I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Never did I dream that troops taking that same oath would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens—much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside.

We must reject any thinking of our cities as a "battlespace" that our uniformed military is called upon to "dominate." At home, we should use our military only when requested to do so, on very rare occasions, by state governors. Militarizing our response, as we witnessed in Washington, D.C., sets up a conflict—a false conflict— between the military and civilian society. It erodes the moral ground that ensures a trusted bond between men and women in uniform and the society they are sworn to protect, and of which they themselves are a part.

Keeping public order rests with civilian state and local leaders who best understand their communities and are answerable to them.
James Madison wrote in Federalist 14 that "America united with a handful of troops, or without a single soldier, exhibits a more
forbidding posture to foreign ambition than America disunited, with a hundred thousand veterans ready for combat." We do not need to militarize our response to protests. We need to unite around a common purpose. And it starts by guaranteeing that all of us are equal before the law.

Instructions given by the military departments to our troops before the Normandy invasion reminded soldiers that "The Nazi slogan for destroying us...was 'Divide and Conquer.' Our American answer is 'In Union there is Strength.'" We must summon that unity to surmount this crisis—confident that we are better than our politics.

Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children.

We can come through this trying time stronger, and with a renewed sense of purpose and respect for one another. The pandemic has shown us that it is not only our troops who are willing to offer the ultimate sacrifice for the safety of the community. Americans in hospitals, grocery stores, post offices, and elsewhere have put their lives on the line in order to serve their fellow citizens and their country.

We know that we are better than the abuse of executive authority that we witnessed in Lafayette Square. We must reject and hold accountable those in office who would make a mockery of our Constitution. At the same time, we must remember Lincoln's "better angels," and listen to them, as we work to unite.

Only by adopting a new path—which means, in truth, returning to the original path of our founding ideals—will we again be a country admired and respected at home and abroad.

James Mattis

[sturg33]

Oh so its not tyranny as long as you agree with the motivating interests behind it

Shocker

[nsacpi]

Oh so its not tyranny as long as you agree with the motivating interests behind it

Shocker

I would say the difference in motivation between the Australian authorities seeking to contain a pandemic and a president seeking to throw gasoline on a volatile situation is one worthy of consideration. It is interesting to me which one you have hysterically and strenuously criticized and which one you have doggedly and loyally defended. It is what it is.

[sturg33]

I would say the difference in motivation between the Australian authorities seeking to contain a pandemic and a president seeking to throw gasoline on a volatile situation is one worthy of consideration. It is interesting to me which one you have hysterically and strenuously criticized and which one you have doggedly and loyally defended. It is what it is.

What's most interesting to me is you find no issues with internment camps, national house arrests, police brutality, and randomized police house calls to ensure citizens are home is some sort of noble act of governance

But you have long been broken. The academic class is such a laughing stock

[acesfull86]

https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/620185/

The Experts Somehow Overlooked Authoritarians on the Left
Many psychologists wrongly assumed that coercive attitudes exist only among conservatives.


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Not sure what thread this is best suited for, but worth a read…

[nsacpi]

I've tried to warn y'all about the Marin County moms and other extreme left anti-vaxxers. They have been quietly killing y'all with their deza and y'all don't even realize it. Wake up! Before it's too late!

[Runnin]

Jerry Mitchell--
On this day in 1868, a massacre took place in Opelousas, Louisiana, one of the worst outbreaks of violence during Reconstruction. When some Black Americans attempted to join the Democratic Party, the Knights of the White Camelia (a white supremacist organization) rushed in to drive them out. School teacher Emerson Bentley was one of the few White Republicans in the region. He had come to Louisiana to help Black Americans vote and find jobs. The 18-year-old was also an editor for the Republican newspaper, The St. Landry Progress. Displeased by their depiction, a mob severely beat Bentley.

A group of Black Americans moved to rescue him, not knowing that he had already escaped. Of the 29 Black men captured by the mob, 27 of them were killed, and the bloodshed continued for weeks. The death toll reached 250, the vast majority of them Black Americans. Through the Opelousas Massacre and similar acts of violence, “lynching became routinized in Louisiana, a systematic way by which whites sought to assert white supremacy in response to African-American resistance,” historian Michael Pfeifer told Smithsonian magazine. The years following Reconstruction led to a vicious wave of lynchings, not only in the South, but across the U.S.

[sturg33]

We've gone from can't enter to criminal in two weeks

The lecturing buffoon assured us this wouldn't happen.

We all know how that goes

[Runnin]

I think this is the right thread.

"I'M FREE!!!"

[sturg33]

Nothing like being beaten to death in order to protect your health

Imagine defending this

[Jaw]

We must reject any thinking of our cities as a "battlespace" that our uniformed military is called upon to "dominate." At home, we should use our military only when requested to do so, on very rare occasions, by state governors. Militarizing our response, as we witnessed in Washington, D.C., sets up a conflict—a false conflict— between the military and civilian society. It erodes the moral ground that ensures a trusted bond between men and women in uniform and the society they are sworn to protect, and of which they themselves are a part.

Keeping public order rests with civilian state and local leaders who best understand their communities and are answerable to them.
James Madison wrote in Federalist 14 that "America united with a handful of troops, or without a single soldier, exhibits a more
forbidding posture to foreign ambition than America disunited, with a hundred thousand veterans ready for combat." We do not need to militarize our response to protests. We need to unite around a common purpose. And it starts by guaranteeing that all of us are equal before the law.

This is a childishly naive interpretation of the events, but sadly that is essentially what I have come to expect from both him and you in any instance regarding the orange man who hurt you.

Yes, it is less than optimal to have federal troops performing law enforcement. That's why it was so irresponsible and negligent of Dem politicians to not enforce the law when a Summer of insurrection continuously resulted in arson, looting, gang beatings, and murder. Oddly, neither of you have the intellectual fortitude to criticize those pathetic sheep of political "leaders," because that doesn't suit your purpose. It's sadder to see that from you than it is from him.

You and your comrade Mr. Mattis should have repeated that Madison quote to the people torching our cities because of a racial bias in police violence that statistics say doesn't exist.

[nsacpi]

If Mathis is childish, please do lump me into that category. I'll gladly accept the compliment.

[sturg33]

The beat goes on