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    Rut Roh! Matt Harvey had a MRI done today
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonCowboy View Post
    Rut Roh! Matt Harvey had a MRI done today
    ya never know with pitchers. I remember how quite a few wanted to lock up Beachy to a long term deal in early 2012.

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    Harvey to DL with a partially torn UCL.

    Poor Mets.

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    Wow, what is the timeframe for a return on that? Is this something that requires surgery?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Wow, what is the timeframe for a return on that? Is this something that requires surgery?
    Yes. TJ surgery repairs or replaces a torn UCL. The timeframe is 12 months.

    If it is a partial tear, they can try rest and rehab. Most partial tears eventually require surgery. But there are exceptions. Ervin Santana for example had a partial tear a few years ago, but up until now has not needed TJ surgery.

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    Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe UCL injuries require Tommy John.

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    It seems more and more pitchers are having to have TJS these days than in the past. Is the pitch counts actually hurting them?

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    Who knows? Could be pitch counts? Could be having to throw three-four different types of pitches?

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    This is horrible news. I won't mind seeing hte Mets lose but the game is taking a big hit when you take out one of the top 5 pitchers.
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    Pitch counts per game this year

    April
    94
    110
    107
    105
    90
    121

    May
    105
    101
    106
    116
    114

    JUNE
    100
    93
    97
    116
    72
    109

    July
    110
    121
    112
    99

    August
    110
    106
    95
    86
    102

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    There was a reason youngsters were not allowed to throw breaking balls until I guess money became so overwhelming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawPawMaxwell View Post
    There was a reason youngsters were not allowed to throw breaking balls until I guess money became so overwhelming.
    Fact. I Remember that was stressed when I was coming up playing little league in the 90s

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    Interesting to compare Harvey versus Teheran pitch counts:

    Under 100 pitches Harvey 8 Teheran 17
    100-109 pitches Harvey 9 games Teheran 6
    110-119 Harvey 7 Teheran 1
    Over 120 Harvey 2 Teheran 1

    I'm surprised how hard they worked this kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Interesting to compare Harvey versus Teheran pitch counts:

    Under 100 pitches Harvey 8 Teheran 17
    100-109 pitches Harvey 9 games Teheran 6
    110-119 Harvey 7 Teheran 1
    Over 120 Harvey 2 Teheran 1

    I'm surprised how hard they worked this kid.
    It is something to look at moving forward. That being said Tehearn could need surgery at any minute. There is just not exact formula to prevent a pitcher from getting hurt. either they will or won't IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    It is something to look at moving forward. That being said Tehearn could need surgery at any minute. There is just not exact formula to prevent a pitcher from getting hurt. either they will or won't IMO.
    Some of it is just bad luck. But I'm sure a young pitcher with the pitch count profile of Teheran this year has less chance of injury than one with Harvey's pitch count profile.

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    Fredi Gonzalez 1 Terry Collins 0 on this comparison.

    Especially when you consider which guy is pitching for a contending team and which guy is pitching for a non-contender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    What a joke of an apology. Of course he had to throw it in there like he only did it once (Sure thing Ryan). Then he goes on to make up some ridiculous reason why he slandered Laurenzi. Hey Ryan, you did it because you are a bad person not because you had an internal crisis.
    If that was the only ped he did then he wouldn't be suspended now right? This suspension hsd nothing to do with 2011 right.

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    I'm not a fan of hard pitch counts. Some guys should be allowed to pitch more some guys should be monitored more. For example I'd use the kid gloves more for Julio than I would for Minor.
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    Weren't they going to shut him down soon too? Really sucks for them.

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    Any time a guy has an arm injury, I just assume we won't see them again for a year +. Feel bad for the Mets and Matt Harvey. It just sucks how frequent guys need surgery on their pitching arms and how long it takes for the body to recover.

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