Dalyn (07-08-2015)
I'm all for continuing to stockpile as many prospects as Hart can possibly pry away from other teams, and have been since day one. That said, Maybin and Grilli have simply been too good to just give away for the sake of adding marginal talent. If you're able to get at least one prospect capable of cracking our Top 10 for Grilli, and one of those plus for Maybin I completely understand trading them - just not for anything less.
Our more numerically inclined friends are quick to point out that this is "unsustainable" based on the numbers. The funny thing is, they've been screaming this for 3 and a half months now. I understand the likelihood seems minimal based on past performance, but Cam is turning into the player he was advertised to be more and more everyday, Uribe has typically been this good over his entire career, Grilli has always been this good (as has Jim Johnson), and you can SEE Jace Peterson and Eury Perez getting better every day (regardless of what the spreadsheets tell you). The pen is monumentally better with improvement to come (Vizcaino, Carpenter, and McKirahan).
This team has won 6 0f 7 WITHOUT Freeman, and is in the process of potentially sweeping what had been the hottest team in baseball - with Teheran and Wood struggling mightily. Do I think they'll make the playoffs? No. But as a group they're much better than the numbers indicate they should be. You can twist the numbers to point to things you'd like to point to as weaknesses, and while I'm not about to call them the Giants or Rays or Cardinals of recent years they always seem to find a way to compete when you think they shouldn't (some of those teams haven't always been particular sabermetric darlings either IMO).
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
The thing is that we are always told that you can be lucky over a short sample. Past results of over exceeding has no bearing on future probabilities. So its entirely possible that when Freeman comes back that we continue to overachieve and then get hot at the right time. We are always told that all you have to do is get hot and make hte postseason. Why can't the same thing happen with the Braves this year?
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Doesn't exactly relate to the new Top 50, but interesting nevertheless...
http://www.baseballamerica.com/major...res-prospects/
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
50PoundHead (07-08-2015)
Preller should be on the hot seat.
We are going to see a massive sell off of that team.
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They don't have a ton of assets to sell, though. Upton has little value now; Kemp has little; their infield is garbage, and they've already traded all their best prospects. Kimbrel and Myers are about their only real trade pieces, and they may keep Myers.
Preller should already be fired. They had one of the worst off seasons ever, and you could see it coming a mile away.
Last edited by smootness; 07-08-2015 at 04:39 PM.
It looks like BA posted their top 10s for each team today. Anyone see ours?
They have to keep the system in this shape though. Under Wren, the excuse was used that so many prospects go promoted and that was the reason the system dried up. The system dried up because Frank Wren and company drafted players like they were pulling names from a hat.
The system still needs some high level hitting prospects that have power potential. You have to safe guard the system in the event that Rio Ruiz doesn't figure things out, Dustin Peterson continues to slump, and Braxton Davidson continues to strike out at a high rate.
From out of left field... Anyone know the status of toscano?
First, it doesn't make sense for them to trade those guys. They need young talent, so they need to hold onto the few prospects they have left.
And second, I'm becoming very skeptical that Renfroe ever really figures it out. Right now, I think he's starting to look a lot like Francouer, and the longer he struggles, the more likely it is that's his ceiling.