Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
I agree Acuna is good.
2018 seems way too early. Unless he just dominates A+ and AA ball this year...
i hate to make this into a Heyward thing, but the issue with him is that people believed he was going to be an elite player, i.e. superstar. That just never happened, and it doesn't look like it will ever happen. So yes he was a good hitter for a couple of seasons, but he did not live up to expectations...not even close.
Knucksie (03-24-2017)
I agree it is more nuanced. Southcrack brings up a good point about acquisition cost (though nobody will convince me Lewis would have been any more expensive to acquire than Anderson was because all the facts point to the exact opposite).
My point was that when someone states the fact that, "asset Type A is more risky and less valuable overall than asset Type B", it is extreme confirmation bias when the conclusion someone else draws from that statement is, "then it's a good thing we are stocking up on asset Type A".
Arguing about the validity of the fact stated is one thing. Drawing a moronic conclusion based on the fact presented is completely different issue.
I think Heyward is still a good overall player and maybe he rebounds offensively. I don't think he's been the same since the beaning although he put up a very good season in St. Louis. The diminished power is what stands out to me. He's still a stellar outfielder and a very good baserunner. I don't know if that amounts to a player worth what he's getting paid, but the market did what it did. My guess is all the bidders thought his power numbers would rebound.
PS--To the Hernandez comment, I don't think any observer could conclude from their approaches that Freeman's isn't superior to Heyward's, but approaches don't necessarily translate to results. Freeman's hitting base and his swing are almost flawless and his weight transfer is also right on the mark. Heyward is the superior athlete and I think at some level, his athleticism masked a few holes in his swing. At the big league level, it's all about constantly making adjustments because the other side is always scouting for weaknesses. Heyward may be one adjustment away from getting back to where he was prior to 2016.
The bottom line is Heyward isn't done. People forget he's still young. If he were 30, sticking a fork in him would probably be warranted.
Last edited by 50PoundHead; 03-24-2017 at 11:57 AM.
I still think that face ball messed Heywood up more than he will ever admit. I think it got in his head and then he tinkered with his swing to fix a problem in his head.
I mentioned the metz broadcast crew. Obviously the braves front office believed it or else they would have extended him.
You are asking me to prove something that is unrealistic but it doesn't proven that what you said is right. There is rarely a consensus view in a player.
I seriously doubt the Braves didn't feel Heyward was a good hitter. They didn't extend him because they didn't think he was worth the contract he got due to difference of opinion on defensive value. Again, this was never brought up during possible trade of ext talks at that time. Heyward was a good hitter. Whether you think he was or not is irrelevant.
Actually took the bait and visited this site:
http://www.thepointofpittsburgh.com/...dated-edition/
Impressions:
First, the eyes glazed over, thinking that it's kind of scary that people do this while not getting paid for it. In terms of hobbies, it's far less cool than Screech's insect collection on "Saved By the Bell."
But major league teams do have to have Type B assets, and usually more of them than Type A assets. So there are costs one way or another. If you could avoid Type B assets altogether, that would be one thing, or if it cost the same to acquire both assets. But it costs more to acquire Type A assets and you still need both.
The fact is valid, but I don't think the conclusion is wrong, either. I'm not saying we should go pitching instead of hitting, but you have to have both, especially if the other alternative is to use a huge % of your budget on acquiring already-proven guys later.