Star Wars Discussion Thread (Spoilers Inside)

[striker42]

I disagree that Duel of the Fates was that great. It's score is amazing. It's one of the best scores in Star Wars for sure and probably the best that's not like a general theme (Main Theme, Imperial March, the Force theme, etc.) but the scene itself kind of is terribly paced and written and for all the **** the "experts" give the fight Choreography of the throne scene in TLJ, like there's just so many things that don't make sense. I'm ignoring the things that were silly like maul doing the cartwheel flip or whatever you want to call that for literally no reason.

It also flies in the face of reason that Qui Gon Jinn would have been as agressive as he was considering all the teachings of the jedi we were told. Even with the Sith threat, it flies in the face of jedi teachings to not just protect and defend but to agressively attack to the point that you leave your padawan alone.

The score contributes hugely to how epic the Duel of the Fates is. You also have one of the cooler looking villains in Darth Maul, the introduction of the lightsaber bo staff, and the first time they were really able to do elaborate, high speed choreography for a lightsaber fight.

As for Qui-Gon's aggression, he did use an aggressive form of lightsaber combat and was also something of a maverick. He didn't fall in line with all of the teachings of the Jedi. Then there's the fact that his master was Count Dooku. So some aggression shouldn't be surprising, he just would never give himself over to it. I also think he felt a need to protect Obi-Wan in the fight. I don't see it as him leaving his padawan alone. I see it as Qui-Gon trying to keep Obi-Wan away from danger and end the threat himself.

[zitothebrave]

I don't want to put if off as bad, It's far and away the best part of TPM. Only part really worth watching IMO.

But that being said, my gripe isn't even the quality ofthe film. It's higher quality than AotC, but this really does nothing to serve the plot that couldn't be done with 1 or 2 lines of dialogue.

[striker42]

I don't want to put if off as bad, It's far and away the best part of TPM. Only part really worth watching IMO.

But that being said, my gripe isn't even the quality ofthe film. It's higher quality than AotC, but this really does nothing to serve the plot that couldn't be done with 1 or 2 lines of dialogue.

That's true. There's a lot in that movie that did nothing to further the overarching plot of the saga. All the stuff with Naboo, the Gungans, the dispute with the Trade Federation, most of what happened on Tattoine, and all the development of Qui-Gon and Maul, all of it was basically meaningless as far as the larger story goes.

All the wasted time is especially egregious when you think of all the things that weren't given near enough time in the next two movies. Anakin wasn't showcased enough being likable so you felt nothing when he turned, there wasn't nearly enough put into exploring why he fell and the process of his turn to the dark side, the whole war with the separatists was poorly explained, how the Clone Army came into being was glossed over, etc. They left so many gaps in the story that it took the Clone Wars show to make things make sense.

[Krgrecw]

the Acolyte show is worse than Kenobi.

[zitothebrave]

the Acolyte show is worse than Kenobi.

Nah, it's pretty dope so far. Seeing Jedi at their peak able to do cool things we never fully got to see. Enemy has a clear motivation that's personal and more stuff will unfold. Episodes pace really well. The CGI is also outstanding. Neomoidians looked awesome in particular. ALso really dig the fight choreography. Both the opening fight scene with Indira, and the fight scene with Sol. Most likely things will ramp up as the season goes on.

[Krgrecw]

Nah, it's pretty dope so far. Seeing Jedi at their peak able to do cool things we never fully got to see. Enemy has a clear motivation that's personal and more stuff will unfold. Episodes pace really well. The CGI is also outstanding. Neomoidians looked awesome in particular. ALso really dig the fight choreography. Both the opening fight scene with Indira, and the fight scene with Sol. Most likely things will ramp up as the season goes on.

You may have the worst take on the SW universe that I know. It’s dog ****.

However, RT’s Audience Score is 47% after 250+ reviews, with more than half of the users giving it a negative review. Similarly, on Metacritic, the user score stands at a very low 3.3. Only 29% of the total 105 reviews are positive. While 7% of reviews are mixed, 65% of reviews are negative.

[Tapate50]

Yeah it’s pretty cringe.

I’ll watch just for the story but it’s awful

[zitothebrave]

You may have the worst take on the SW universe that I know. It’s dog ****.

However, RT’s Audience Score is 47% after 250+ reviews, with more than half of the users giving it a negative review. Similarly, on Metacritic, the user score stands at a very low 3.3. Only 29% of the total 105 reviews are positive. While 7% of reviews are mixed, 65% of reviews are negative.

Ok?

RT audience score for Last Jedi is lower than Rise of Skywalker, Attack of the Clones, and The Phantom Menace. THat's all I need to know that RT scores are dog **** as fans are ****ing morons. But really what happens is members of certain 4chan channels and subreddits and youtube groups decide to review boost/bomb content. Ahsoka has basically the same metacritic fan score as Kenobi which is wild.

Anyone with 4 braincells can put it together to see that there's more in effect than actual reviews.

[Tapate50]

OR….it could be what he said, you got wild takes on SW.

Especially the force pull from Leia movie

[zitothebrave]

OR….it could be what he said, you got wild takes on SW.

Especially the force pull from Leia movie

By wild you mean wildly accurate.

[Tapate50]

I guess to you, and only you. Yes.

Most of the rest of us are tired of being fed dog****.

[zitothebrave]

I guess to you, and only you. Yes.

Most of the rest of us are tired of being fed dog****.

Sounds about right. We're gettign more Star Wars content than ever, and you're butt hurt about it.

[Tapate50]

lol- Why would I be hurt about more content?

That doesn’t even make sense

[zitothebrave]

lol- Why would I be hurt about more content?

That doesn’t even make sense

You're certainly acting that way

"Most of the rest of us are tired of being fed dog****."

Even if we've gotten some of the best star wars content ever in the last decade.

[Krgrecw]

You're certainly acting that way

"Most of the rest of us are tired of being fed dog****."

Even if we've gotten some of the best star wars content ever in the last decade.

Your opinion, the majority disagrees with you.

[zitothebrave]

Your opinion, the majority disagrees with you.

Not really?

You think the majority doesn't like Andor? The Mandalorian? The Bad Batch? Rebels? Ahsoka?

Even if you have the wrong opinion and don't like Last Jedi there's countless examples of star wars content liked by fans and critics.

RotS was the highest rated IMDB prequel film at 7.6. Disney star wars content that beats that include

The Bad Batch (7.8)
Rebels (8.1)
Force Awakens (7.8)
Rogue One (7.8)
Tales of the Jedi (8.2)
Andor (8.4)
Mandalorian (forgot in original post, 8.6)

Even using your standards a lot of Star Wars content that's come out in the last decade is better than any other official Star Wars content that's come out in decades. That's ignoring things people are wrong about like hating on Star Wars VIsions (and obviously Last Jedi)

So obviously the majority doesn't disagree. Just the vocal minority who for some reason are really popular grifting off right wing anger against "wokeness"

[Krgrecw]

Not really?

You think the majority doesn't like Andor? The Mandalorian? The Bad Batch? Rebels? Ahsoka?

Even if you have the wrong opinion and don't like Last Jedi there's countless examples of star wars content liked by fans and critics.

RotS was the highest rated IMDB prequel film at 7.6. Disney star wars content that beats that include

The Bad Batch (7.8)
Rebels (8.1)
Force Awakens (7.8)
Rogue One (7.8)
Tales of the Jedi (8.2)
Andor (8.4)
Mandalorian (forgot in original post, 8.6)

Even using your standards a lot of Star Wars content that's come out in the last decade is better than any other official Star Wars content that's come out in decades. That's ignoring things people are wrong about like hating on Star Wars VIsions (and obviously Last Jedi)

So obviously the majority doesn't disagree. Just the vocal minority who for some reason are really popular grifting off right wing anger against "wokeness"

No im saying the majority thinks
Acolyte and the last three movies all suck.

[zitothebrave]

No im saying the majority thinks
Acolyte and the last three movies all suck.

Maybe you should quote better? Cause that wasn't what we were talking about in the post you quoted. And unless you're going last 3 movies as Ep 9, 8 and SOlo your other point is wrong by the masses.

Just take the L. I'm right you're wrong, deal with it.

[zitothebrave]

Also worth noting the "masses" didn't appreciate early Andor either. I'm assuming because the "anti-woke" chuds were downvoting it until everyone made it clear they were wrong and they had to move to another grift and instead praised it because it was written by a man and starred a man, even though they tried to decry it as woke, because it starred a Mexican.

And this is evident because of Andor's first 2 episodes had the lowest of the season by a lot. As does Ahsoka (technically the 3rd episode was the lowest, but anyway) hell there are total morons int he comments of Ahsoka like one person who said and I quote "Go watch The Clone Wars if you want to see the origins of Ahsoka and how she is actually supposed to be as a character. I can guarantee you that that show is 100 times better than this one. Heck, even check out Rebels. That show also handles Ahsoka as a character much better than this show" wonder who will break that chuds heart that Dave Filoni made Ahsoka and was show runner for all three of the shows so Ahsoka's story went exactly how he wanted it to.

[Tapate50]

You're certainly acting that way

"Most of the rest of us are tired of being fed dog****."

Even if we've gotten some of the best star wars content ever in the last decade.

Huh?

Most of it’s cringe. I’m not hurt about more content, I’d like better content.

I’m not a latent stooge that loves anything someone puts in front of me.

It’s called taste