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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Julio last 10 starts...
    59.0 ip 37 h 23 er 27 bb 56 k
    Era = 3.51
    Whip = 1.08

    Julio last 5 starts...
    30.2 ip 16 h 10 er 13 bb 28 k
    Era = 2.93
    Whip = 0.96

    Julio making his case to start a playoff game
    His command has been good. But luck too. I couldn't believe some of those 87 mph fastballs down the middle that Pirates hitters swung through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Maybe our manager did a better job managing the pen for the long-term.
    Or our GM

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Or our GM
    actually in allocating blame/credit, I blame the GM for the team not having a situational lefty for such a long portion of the season...that was the main problem in the pen

    Snit gets the blame for some things...he has continued to use Biddle in a way that doesn't account for the reverse splits...we were very lucky in game 1 to win in spite of one of Snit's worst bullpen moves this season...Ender's throw bailed him out

    In term's of sharing the workload, Snit has done well. I thought earlier in the season he was pulling the starters an inning too early which was resulting in too high a workload for the pen. But lately he has been better about that. Biddle's emergence also allowed him to share the load better. If that had not happened, I think it would have worn out the other guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Maybe our manager did a better job managing the pen for the long-term.
    i didn't want to be the one to say it!
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    I don’t think it was our manager doing a better job. But our pen just being better. We also gave a few guys ten day breathers and had guys rotating on the bus between Gwinnett. Also wonder if there small run differential made them use some of their big guns more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    I don’t think it was our manager doing a better job. But our pen just being better. We also gave a few guys ten day breathers and had guys rotating on the bus between Gwinnett. Also wonder if there small run differential made them use some of their big guns more.
    Couple of observations. The Phillies and Braves bullpens have pitched almost an identical number of innings. They have six relievers who have pitched between 40 and 53 innings. We have 5 who have pitched over 40 and 2 (Winkler and Minter) who have pitched over 53 (54 and 56 respectively).

    It looks to me like the workload for the overall pen and the distribution of that workload have been fairly similar. What might be different (and would require a bit of work) would be to see how many innings were pitched with no rest, how many times a reliever went 3 consecutive days or 4 games in 5 days. Stuff like that. I think Snit has been careful to try not to put our relievers in too many situations where they were pitching without rest. Freeman of course was the noticeable exception early in the season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    His command has been good. But luck too. I couldn't believe some of those 87 mph fastballs down the middle that Pirates hitters swung through.
    For real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    His command has been good. But luck too. I couldn't believe some of those 87 mph fastballs down the middle that Pirates hitters swung through.
    Wonder what him avg velocity has been over last 10 starts

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Wonder what him avg velocity has been over last 10 starts
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    actually in allocating blame/credit, I blame the GM for the team not having a situational lefty for such a long portion of the season...that was the main problem in the pen

    Snit gets the blame for some things...he has continued to use Biddle in a way that doesn't account for the reverse splits...we were very lucky in game 1 to win in spite of one of Snit's worst bullpen moves this season...Ender's throw bailed him out

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    It seems like Snitker sees Biddle and Freeman in essentially the same role. 6th inning guy who isn't necessarily chosen for matchups.

    I think maybe we feel like Biddle is more high leverage than that, but that doesn't seem to be his most recent use.

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    You have to give some credit to the starters too. All of them have pitched well lately save Newk, and that REALLY helps a bullpen.

    What Skip used to say about catchers may ring true for Teheran's fastball: "He has deceptive speed... He's slower than he looks."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    It seems like Snitker sees Biddle and Freeman in essentially the same role. 6th inning guy who isn't necessarily chosen for matchups.

    I think maybe we feel like Biddle is more high leverage than that, but that doesn't seem to be his most recent use.
    For a while it looked like Biddle was going to be our 7th inning guy. But then after Brach and Venters came in his role has not been as clearly defined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    His command has been good. But luck too. I couldn't believe some of those 87 mph fastballs down the middle that Pirates hitters swung through.

    Man, that extension is one I wish the front office had back.

    I think he might be a NRI otherwise. But that extension might keep him in the rotation. Probably best served being rotation depth in AAA though.

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    Thing is, he has been pretty dang good over his last what- three ? -starts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulavol View Post
    Thing is, he has been pretty dang good over his last what- three ? -starts...
    he had some luck last night, but yeah he has pitched pretty well lately...3.58 FIP in August (4 starts)
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaGirl View Post
    That is a bad bad bad loss for the Phillies right there. They're probably about to be swept, too as I can't see them winning a Max Scherzer game.
    Well close your eyes then

    2-0 Phils in the 7th

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    Their bullpen will blow it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulavol View Post
    Their bullpen will blow it.
    ..if it gets to the pen.
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    Difo almost got it

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