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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    The Patriots being last on the list for drinking has to be a mistake. There's no way anyone has been to any sporting even in "Baah-stin" without experiencing waves of the token drunk Boston fan. I know Foxboro isn't technically Boston, but it might as well be.
    The thing is that the Pats have massive corporate deals. I'm sure the numbers are off, but this isn't the Red Sox.

    Looking at the list to me it seems to be the more corporate a team is (big name, lots of outreach, etc.) the less ridiculous their fans are.
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    Well it does say binge drinking. Theres probably also a lot of teenager bandwagon Patriot fans.
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    I think maybe this list was put together last year. Mass had some pretty strict regulations for COVID, plus they lost Brady and were pretty crappy, so a lot of their bandwagon fans left them and the ones that remained probably stayed at home to binge drink.

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    I'm a little shocked the Falcons didn't take Sewell, but I love Pitts. He's a mismatch's dream. Coupled with Julio and Ridley, Ryan is poised for a huge season.
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    Well this Bears fan is ecstatic after last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bj1133 View Post
    Well this Bears fan is ecstatic after last night.
    I'd have taken Fields at 4. Highest upside of any player in the draft. Not 100% ready but have a little patience and he could be incredible.

    Falcons drafted a luxury.

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    Eh. The drafted the most impressive player in the draft regardless of position. It was true BPA.
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    49ers made the right move. Mac Jones ended up with the perfect fit for him with the Pats. I really don't understand why he was rated so highly. Dude is a statue. He's more likely to be Joe Flacco than he is the next Brady. Honestly was more impressed with Kyle Trask last year than Mac Jones.

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    I’m far from an NFL draft expert and I watch almost no college football, but I got the impression last night that more teams did the smart, logical thing than in most years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    I’m far from an NFL draft expert and I watch almost no college football, but I got the impression last night that more teams did the smart, logical thing than in most years.
    Then you have the Raiders

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    I'd have taken Fields at 4. Highest upside of any player in the draft. Not 100% ready but have a little patience and he could be incredible.

    Falcons drafted a luxury.
    Falcons drafted the guy who's most likely to be a generational talent. Not a guarantee of course. But coupled with Julio and Ridley, no one can cover the Falcons right now. THey're basically going to have to blitz and hope ryan makes a mistake.

    I think if you could say, you have a shot at Gronk, would you pass that up?

    Especially considering the history of Ohio State QBs, I would go with the safer pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    I’m far from an NFL draft expert and I watch almost no college football, but I got the impression last night that more teams did the smart, logical thing than in most years.
    Yeah, there was no true boner pick this year it seems, I think the dumbest pick was the Jags taking a running back in the first
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Falcons drafted the guy who's most likely to be a generational talent. Not a guarantee of course. But coupled with Julio and Ridley, no one can cover the Falcons right now. THey're basically going to have to blitz and hope ryan makes a mistake.

    I think if you could say, you have a shot at Gronk, would you pass that up?

    Especially considering the history of Ohio State QBs, I would go with the safer pick.
    I will fully agree that BPA there was Pitts. He is an elite talent that if used intelligently will be almost impossible to defend.

    The problem is that the Falcons are in cap hell. It's so bad there's a non-zero chance they'll trade Julio this summer. Ryan is still a good QB but he's not got that many more seasons in him and I'm not convinced they can field a competitive team this year even with an offense that features Ryan, Jones, Pitts, and Ridley. The defense is bad.

    The upside of Fields is one that could have a bigger impact on the Falcons than Pitts. He's got better tools than any other QB in the draft. He's more raw but that's why Atlanta would have been a perfect situation for him. Have him play being Ryan for two years, apprentice to him, and you could have one of the best QB's in football for a decade.

    If the Falcons are looking to make one last run with Julio and Ryan, then Pitts is an obvious pick. I guess I'm more ready to see them rebuild. Get the cap issues over, tank for a year or two, and be ready for the next window.

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    I kind of want the Falcons to rebuild, but Brees retiring, Brady being old AF does open up a small shot for the Falcons if their offense can do all the heavy lifting.
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    The Falcons cap situation is pretty dire. They have less than $1 million in cap space but will apparently need $11 million to sign their rookie class.

    I'm thinking they pretty much have to trade Julio at this point. There aren't a ton of options for clearing that much space. That could also explain why they wanted Pitts. They needed a playmaker to plug the hole they'll be opening up.

    They should have torn this team down to the studs. It's a perfect time to after firing Quinn and Dimitroff. But they're caught in that gray area where they have enough talent to hope to compete but have too many holes to really have a chance at a title. They look to be trying to compete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    The Falcons cap situation is pretty dire. They have less than $1 million in cap space but will apparently need $11 million to sign their rookie class.

    I'm thinking they pretty much have to trade Julio at this point. There aren't a ton of options for clearing that much space. That could also explain why they wanted Pitts. They needed a playmaker to plug the hole they'll be opening up.

    They should have torn this team down to the studs. It's a perfect time to after firing Quinn and Dimitroff. But they're caught in that gray area where they have enough talent to hope to compete but have too many holes to really have a chance at a title. They look to be trying to compete.
    A lot of that 11 million will be off-set by the guys you drafted replacing similar players on the 51 man roster. Your dead cap and your top 51 are all that count towards the salary cap. So you probably only need clear around 7.5 million max for your draft class. You have 2.5 million in cap space currently, so restructuring/extending a couple of players would easily free up enough to cover that.
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    I think they are ok with the restructures. I don’t think it’s dire as it was
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    If the Falcons trade Julio after June 1, they free up 15 million in cap space. That's a pretty big consideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Yeah, there was no true boner pick this year it seems, I think the dumbest pick was the Jags taking a running back in the first
    They took a "complimentary back" they intend to use in some third down scenarios...in their own words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Yeah, there was no true boner pick this year it seems, I think the dumbest pick was the Jags taking a running back in the first
    The Raiders took Alex Leatherwood at 17, who was widely considered a 2nd round pick prior to the draft. Pretty boner move if you ask me.

    Saints taking Payton Turner at 28 is also a head scratcher, though I did like him as a prospect. I didn't see any 1st round grades on Turner prior to the draft and rarely saw any 2nd round grades. I guess if you're high on him and you can't move back then you take him instead of risking losing him. But it seemed like a pretty big reach.

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