Meme & Quote Thread

[jpx7]

Sure... since apparently it turns into a 73% increase in economic surplus. WHAT A DEAL!

Well that wasn't my argument.

[Jaw]

Well, 3% is like 1 in 33 people? If you worked in a decently busy grocery store with a decent SNAP-eligible population nearby, you'd probably expect to see almost daily fraudsters even at 3%.

This seems valid, assuming they have any way of including the SNAP-for-cash exchanges in their fraud calculation. I'm not sure how they could.

[Jaw]

That's fair, if you're coming at this from a guaranteed-rights perspective—though I'd quibble that, while the EO doesn't directly abrogate any rights of citizens, it take away the previously-guaranteed rights of the next best thing (permanent legal residents); and moreover that limiting access (ie closing loopholes) to certain kinds of weapons and/or certain kinds of people is not really "taking away rights guaranteed to citizens of this country", but limiting those rights (for instance: it shouldn't be easier for a released felon to obtain a gun than it is to restore their voting rights).

But thethe was not approaching this from a rights-based direction, but a security-based angle. And my counterargument is that previously-granted rights to permanent legal residents and visa-holders are being entirely abrogated in service of no real gains to security, based on the evidence available; while, in the case of guns example, the previously-granted rights (or, often, loopholes) of some citizens would be limited, but this tradeoff—evidence suggests—might produce real public-safety gains.

I agree with what thethe is saying, and think we need to come to terms with a more isolationist immigration policy making us safer. But I appreciate the logic and reasoning in your post.

[57Brave]

[Hawk]

[Julio3000]

Yeah, except. . . .

[Hawk]

[Julio3000]

I mean, maybe it takes one to know one, but Bannon looks like he's three sheets to the wind most of the time.

[Runnin]

I mean, maybe it takes one to know one, but Bannon looks like he's three sheets to the wind most of the time.

Maybe he's a teetotaler like T but he's got the bloated, pink face of an alcoholic.

[goldfly]

I mean, maybe it takes one to know one, but Bannon looks like he's three sheets to the wind most of the time.

maybe that's why agent orange likes him. reminds him in some convoluted way of Churchill

[cajunrevenge]

https://streamable.com/qq0f3

[cajunrevenge]

Tell me again why I should trust the governments ability to properly vet refugees. This physically pains me to watch.

[Runnin]

[Runnin]

[Runnin]

[sturg33]

Tell me again why I should trust the governments ability to properly vet refugees. This physically pains me to watch.

It's disgusting what our country has allowed to happen. Then again, I guess I'm just hypocrite because I fly 4 times a week and do the charade every time.

[Hawk]

Then again, I guess I'm just hypocrite because I fly 4 times a week and do the charade every time.

You don't have PreCheck?

[sturg33]

You don't have PreCheck?

This will sound stupid, but I refuse to pay the government to reward their incompetence. My status with United gets me priority at many airports

[Hawk]

This will sound stupid, but I refuse to pay the government to reward their incompetence. My status with United gets me priority at many airports

I don't know how much international travel you do, but $100 gets you Global Entry and PreCheck (plus Nexus/Sentri for Canada/Mexico border crossings).

Far and away some of the best money I have ever spent. Don't have to take your shoes/jacket off or laptop out. 3-1-1 bag can stay in. No body scanner or hand swab. No gruff TSA agent barking orders.

Plus, knowing that it will rarely take you more than 10 minutes to get through security is awful nice. It's helped restore some of the joy I used to find in flying.

Now, if we could just do something about the entire 'carry-on' ****show. I hope, given your status, that you check your bag.

[sturg33]

I don't know how much international travel you do, but $100 gets you Global Entry and PreCheck (plus Nexus/Sentri for Canada/Mexico border crossings).

Far and away some of the best money I have ever spent. Don't have to take your shoes/jacket off or laptop out. 3-1-1 bag can stay in. No body scanner or hand swab. No gruff TSA agent barking orders.

Plus, knowing that it will rarely take you more than 10 minutes to get through security is awful nice. It's helped restore some of the joy I used to find in flying.

Now, if we could just do something about the entire 'carry-on' ****show. I hope, given your status, that you check your bag.

Yeah - I probably ought to the global entry... I have a credit card that will reimburse the fee... Just haven't felt like taking the time to do it. Probably well worth it.