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    A's are about to either sign Lucroy or trade for Weiters. If they trade for Weiters, surely the Nats have something else lined up. A Realmuto trade? Sign Lucroy themselves? Does that free up enough cash for them to also sign one of Arrieta/Lynn/Cobb?

    ETA: Looks like it's Lucroy.
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    Nice work by the Reds extenting Eugenio Suarez. They will pay $11M per year what would have been his first four free agent seasons (age 29-32 seasons). Plus an option at $15M for his age 33 season.

    This has a good chance of working out very well for the Reds.

    I guess Senzel will be playing second.

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    Suarez's signing is another indication of how the club is trying to keep a core of young players together along with Joey Votto, who is signed through 2023 with his 10-year contract. In September, the Reds inked catcher Tucker Barnhart to a four-year, $16 million deal.

    "We're sending a signal to fans that the work that we've put in the last couple of years is starting to come together," Reds general manager Dick Williams said. "We're starting to identify the building blocks that we want to build this team around. Geno's one of them, Tucker, Joey -- we've got these guys that we're making commitments to them and sending signals to the fans that we're ready to start winning again."
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    They are trying to get Senzel to play SS. The importance of IF defense has decreased to the point players like DeJong and Senzel might be good enough to get their bats at the position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    They are trying to get Senzel to play SS. The importance of IF defense has decreased to the point players like DeJong and Senzel might be good enough to get their bats at the position.
    The game is turning into slow-pitch softball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    They are trying to get Senzel to play SS. The importance of IF defense has decreased to the point players like DeJong and Senzel might be good enough to get their bats at the position.
    We'll see how far it goes before the pendulum goes before it swings back. I think some teams might follow what the Rays are doing and move away from overly relying on high effort high strikeout rate pitchers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    They are trying to get Senzel to play SS. The importance of IF defense has decreased to the point players like DeJong and Senzel might be good enough to get their bats at the position.
    It's sort of interesting that they like Senzel at SS more than Suarez to SS or 2B. Suarez started at SS for them for awhile. I guess poorly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    We'll see how far it goes before the pendulum goes before it swings back. I think some teams might follow what the Rays are doing and move away from overly relying on high effort high strikeout rate pitchers.
    It's always about the inefficiency.

    Doing what everyone else is doing is never a particularly wise investment unless you are ready to jump before everyone else.

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    Phillies DFA'd Tommy Joseph today.

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    Astros close to long term extension on Altuve....sounds like 5 years / $151m
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanforlife88 View Post
    Astros close to long term extension on Altuve....sounds like 5 years / $151m
    age 30-34 seasons...its not awful but I have a feeling Altuve will not age well
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    We'll see how far it goes before the pendulum goes before it swings back. I think some teams might follow what the Rays are doing and move away from overly relying on high effort high strikeout rate pitchers.
    IDK. The strikeout is still the best way to get an out. Guy makes an out and has no chance to move a runner.

    OTOH with the emergence of smaller parks, harder balls, and technology suggesting launch angle changes, plus the prevalence of defensive shifts which are a direct result from technology, you may see a return to more ground ball, soft tossers, especially those that have a trick pitch that might still generate some strikeouts - you know, some one like Greg Maddux!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsehide Harry View Post
    IDK. The strikeout is still the best way to get an out. Guy makes an out and has no chance to move a runner.

    OTOH with the emergence of smaller parks, harder balls, and technology suggesting launch angle changes, plus the prevalence of defensive shifts which are a direct result from technology, you may see a return to more ground ball, soft tossers, especially those that have a trick pitch that might still generate some strikeouts - you know, some one like Greg Maddux!
    I think the issue is how many pitchers you need on the roster when you go the high effort high strikeout rate route. I would guess injuries and general wear and tear over the course of the season is more of an issue with those types of pitchers.
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    Longenhagen said in his chat today that he saw Maitain and that he "looks heavy" and it "isn't good." Yikes.

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    Has a prospect that talked about ever fallen that fast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    Has a prospect that talked about ever fallen that fast?
    Moniak?
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    Moniak has definitely fallen. But Maitain was talked about for a few years about being the next Miguel Cabrera.

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    Altuve's extension is final, and it's 5/151 that covers his age 29-34 seasons with escalators that can add up to another $18M based on MVP finishes. That's potentially a 5/169 deal, or $33.8M AAV (though he is unlikely to win the MVP 3 times). Another Top 3 MVP finish or 2 and his AAV goes to $31M+.

    For all those folks comparing Albies to Altuve, and saying the Braves should not have delayed his clock by keeping him down a couple weeks this year rather than needlessly promoting him last year, let the Altuve extension be a wake up call.

    That stupid early promotion likely loses the Braves a year of control over a $30M per year player, and the Braves certainly can't afford to give a player $30M per year with a $120M-$130M payroll.

    But hey, the Coppy/Hart FO got paid to do this, knew all the numbers we know, and are much smarter than everyone here, so I'm sure they were aware of that fact when they made the decision. At least that's what I was told repeatedly when I called them a below average FO.
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    Gomez returned to the Stankees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Gomez returned to the Stankees.
    I think it's a mistake not finding a place for him on a non-contending team. EL agrees.

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