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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    unlike you who promised me Vivek would finish ahead of RDS (but was too cowardly to put up some $$), I never once predicted or expected RDS to beat trump. While I hoped he would, I understood the stupidity we are dealing with
    Vivek had so much more momentum than RDS that if he would have stayed he would have done better but Vivek is a smart guy and knows that 2028 and beyond is for him.

    But its ok - You'll see how strong RDS is moving forward and realize that it was never going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    great. the OG, who failed the first time and lost to Biden, gets to spend all your donations on his legal bills, and should he by miracle actually win, will get to serve only one term and spend the whole time trying to compromise with dems like he did the first time

    no strategy
    I love how you pretend you didn't continually say the election was stolen.

    But sure - TRUMPS FAULT!

    It makes you looks so so dumb I'm sorry to say.
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    I hope Trump is grateful that he no longer needs to exhaust his very limited resources to win what used to be a crucial swing


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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I hope Trump is grateful that he no longer needs to exhaust his very limited resources to win what used to be a crucial swing

    It was that way in 2020 and it was Trump that started this movement but you can just say its RDS all day - I know you've been brainwashed to think that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Vivek had so much more momentum than RDS that if he would have stayed he would have done better but Vivek is a smart guy and knows that 2028 and beyond is for him.

    But its ok - You'll see how strong RDS is moving forward and realize that it was never going to happen.
    Vivek got a third of the Iowa share that RDS did and then they both dropped out.

    You were wrong. It's OK. It happens. Smart of you to not bet money on it.

    Vivek has decided to kiss the ring and is in the good graces. Meanwhile, you still, 2 mo the later, take random unrelated shots at RDS bc Trump can't stop talking about him

    Sad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Vivek got a third of the Iowa share that RDS did and then they both dropped out.

    You were wrong. It's OK. It happens. Smart of you to not bet money on it.

    Vivek has decided to kiss the ring and is in the good graces. Meanwhile, you still, 2 mo the later, take random unrelated shots at RDS bc Trump can't stop talking about him

    Sad!
    Vivek started from zero. RDS had Fox News basically begging voters to vote for him.

    I know you fail to grasp such concepts. Its ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Vivek started from zero. RDS had Fox News basically begging voters to vote for him.

    I know you fail to grasp such concepts. Its ok.
    RDS did not.

    Thats something you have built up in your own dome
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Vivek started from zero. RDS had Fox News basically begging voters to vote for him.

    I know you fail to grasp such concepts. Its ok.
    Then you were dumb to promise his victory

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    RDS did not.

    Thats something you have built up in your own dome
    He got never ending coversage from Fox because the Murdochs were clearly pulling for him. Not sure how you could say otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    It was that way in 2020 and it was Trump that started this movement but you can just say its RDS all day - I know you've been brainwashed to think that.
    I invite you to revist your analysis during the 2020 and 2021 time frame when you were correctly claiming that RDS saved America due to his work in Florida

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I invite you to revist your analysis during the 2020 and 2021 time frame when you were correctly claiming that RDS saved America due to his work in Florida
    I still think thats true so not sure why you would say otherwise. Doesn't mean he would do well in a general.
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    2016 Florida: Trump +1.2%
    2018 Florida (after 2 years of Trump presidency and Trump's magical endorsement): DeSantis +0.4%
    2020 Florida (after 2 years of RDS governor and RDS' endorsement): Trump +3.4%
    2022 Florida (after 4 years of RDS governor and Trump trashing him days before election): DeSantis +20%

    I know pointing out the above will get me labeled as a dummy who doesn't understand data... but figured it may be worth bumping
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I still think thats true so not sure why you would say otherwise. Doesn't mean he would do well in a general.
    he just might have something to do with the political shift in Florida considering you and I both agree he helped save America
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    2016 Florida: Trump +1.2%
    2018 Florida (after 2 years of Trump presidency and Trump's magical endorsement): DeSantis +0.4%
    2020 Florida (after 2 years of RDS governor and RDS' endorsement): Trump +3.4%
    2022 Florida (after 4 years of RDS governor and Trump trashing him days before election): DeSantis +20%

    I know pointing out the above will get me labeled as a dummy who doesn't understand data... but figured it may be worth bumping
    You just dont' understand things like a Gov election versus presidential.

    RDS probablyi doesn't pull the margin against Biden in Florida that Trump will in the current year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You just dont' understand things like a Gov election versus presidential.

    RDS probablyi doesn't pull the margin against Biden in Florida that Trump will in the current year.
    Well I can at least compare 2018 to 2022.

    in 2018 RDS was an unknown and had the full backing of Trump, and won by like 6 votes

    in 2022, after4 years of his leadership, and with Trump trashing him, he won by a bigger margin that Newsom won in California

    I understand your desire to give all credit to Trump all the time... but methinks RDS had a big part of this enormous shift. This is further proven out when we look at states like Georgia, where Trump's magical endorsements didn't work.

    And now Trump doesn't have to spend any of his very limited resources worrying about Florida.

    Thank you RDS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Well I can at least compare 2018 to 2022.

    in 2018 RDS was an unknown and had the full backing of Trump, and won by like 6 votes

    in 2022, after4 years of his leadership, and with Trump trashing him, he won by a bigger margin that Newsom won in California

    I understand your desire to give all credit to Trump all the time... but methinks RDS had a big part of this enormous shift. This is further proven out when we look at states like Georgia, where Trump's magical endorsements didn't work.

    And now Trump doesn't have to spend any of his very limited resources worrying about Florida.

    Thank you RDS!
    Well you don't understand Floridas shady history of vote rigging it seems and that Gillum was actually an up and coming star for the D party that garnered termendous enthusiasm.

    But when you get all your information from trash RDS influencers I know you'll never understand these things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Well you don't understand Floridas shady history of vote rigging it seems and that Gillum was actually an up and coming star for the D party that garnered termendous enthusiasm.

    But when you get all your information from trash RDS influencers I know you'll never understand these things.
    you've convinced me. RDS was terrible actually and wildly unpopular in Florida. thank god the shady vote rigging stopped in 2022
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    you've convinced me. RDS was terrible actually and wildly unpopular in Florida. thank god the shady vote rigging stopped in 2022
    Yup - That is exactly what was said.
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