Braves1976 (02-25-2018), JohnAdcox (02-25-2018), Super (02-26-2018)
Team friendly is the key. Not back-loaded (which does not necessarily translate to team friendly). Team-friendly as in cheap. The going rate for a win this off-season is 8M. I am ok with signing him for an AAV that translates to 5-6M per expected win. Could be back-loaded on those terms.
Over the next four years I would project his production at 2.5, 2, 2 and 1.5 wins respectively. This means 2 year deal AAV of 12M. 3 year deal AAV of 11M. I wouldn't go beyond 3 years. But I would be ok with an option for a fourth year at about 8M (with a 1M payout). If those terms are not acceptable to him and his agent, thank them for their time and wish them the best.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
Jaw (02-26-2018), jpx7 (02-25-2018), Managuarantano's Volunteers (02-25-2018)
I have been advocating getting rid of him for since the day Snitckers made him PC. His record over 20 plus years shows only 1 good season. He should have stayed in college ball. Fired by Tigers in '08. Leyland saw the real problem for Tigers pitching.
California Angels (1993-96)
Tampa Bay Devil Rays (2004-05), also minor league coordinator (1997-2003)
Detroit Tigers (2006-08)
Cleveland Indians (2009)
Gulf Coast League Phillies (2010)
University of South Florida (2011)
Miami Marlins (2013-15)
Atlanta Braves (2017), also minor league coordinator immediately after exiting Miami.
jpx7 (02-25-2018)
DirkPiggler (02-26-2018), Jaw (02-26-2018), jpx7 (02-26-2018), Ozzie Swanson (02-26-2018), Tapate50 (02-26-2018)
I don't have my research anymore, but if I remember correctly every single pitching staff he inherited increased the BB% his first year and the ERA went up most of the time. I know just because he sucked in the minors and couldn't keep his walk rate below 7 per 9 innings shouldn't matter as a coach.. but man he seems to only know how to walk guys or teach how to walks guys.
I know AA couldn't come in and just start firing guys.. but I bet Chuckie doesn't make it the whole season.
Coppy
jpx7 (02-26-2018)
OMG. The amount of complaining in this thread. Come on guys...
I feel like a Twitter campaign would get Braves brass attention on this Chuck Hernandez issue.
Ivermectin Man
UNCBlue012 (02-26-2018)
DirkPiggler (02-26-2018), Jaw (02-26-2018)