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    Here it is. Sub might be required, but it allows you to see how well pitchers tunnel each pitch pair:

    http://legacy.baseballprospectus.com...hp?cid=2001177

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    Anyone else think baseball's prohibition on big news until after the World Series is ridiculous?
    No, it used to be that Steinbrenner would do something deliberate just to make headlines when the Yankees weren't in it. He was the most extreme case, but it's part of why manager firings, etc. aren't announced to draw attention away from the last 2 standing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucksie View Post
    No, it used to be that Steinbrenner would do something deliberate just to make headlines when the Yankees weren't in it. He was the most extreme case, but it's part of why manager firings, etc. aren't announced to draw attention away from the last 2 standing.
    If that's the case you just put a prohibition on the Yankees from doing things to make headlines for a while. You don't make league wide rules to fit one outlier.

    Normal news from my team would keep me more engaged in the sport if my team isn't in the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    If that's the case you just put a prohibition on the Yankees from doing things to make headlines for a while. You don't make league wide rules to fit one outlier.

    Normal news from my team would keep me more engaged in the sport if my team isn't in the playoffs.

    Yeah, but what real "normal news" is there? Free-Agency doesn't start for at least another week (teams aren't meeting with anyone if they're not breaking the rules), and non-news stories like Krol being outrighted, etc. get out on off days.

    If there's something major happening - Hart being booted and replaced by DMGM or the like - it's not like the involved parties don't know and aren't working behind the scenes already.
    Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...

    Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?

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    MLB continued to investigate after general manager John Coppolella’s forced resignation a few weeks ago (that was a Braves call), and it is expected to announce the results of its inquiry not long after the Dodgers and Astros are done playing in the World Series.
    The league has interviewed team president John Hart multiple times, as well as legendary GM John Schuerholz, who just got into the Hall of Fame, and just about every member of the Braves’ baseball operations department as it investigates alleged rules violations internationally and domestically.
    There had been suggestions Hart was about to start interviewing new GM candidates, but that’s on hold until the investigation concludes. Hart’s own contract was up, and he has said he intended to be back – but that was before this investigation ramped up.
    https://www.fanragsports.com/heyman-...investigation/

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    Please purge this organization of Hart and Schueholz. Who cares if he's a legend and just got into the HOF, he's past his prime and needs to be put out to pasture. Both their ineptitude at upper management is astonishing and deserves firing. Same goes for McGuirk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Millwood1Hitter View Post
    Please purge this organization of Hart and Schueholz. Who cares if he's a legend and just got into the HOF, he's past his prime and needs to be put out to pasture. Both their ineptitude at upper management is astonishing and deserves firing. Same goes for McGuirk.
    Firing JS at this point is like firing the statue of Hank Aaron. It might be symbolic but it would have no real effect.

    Hart is the key guy. McGurick is a bean counter and would only be replaced with another bean counter. If you really want to change the team you have to get rid of Hart.

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    Coppy under investigation - fired.

    Hart under investigation - not fired.

    There's enough smoke to prevent Hart from interviewing GM candidates, but that doesn't get him fired. It was, however, enough to get Coppy fired.

    Yeah, definitely no scapegoating here folks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Coppy under investigation - fired.

    Hart under investigation - not fired.

    Yeah, definitely no scapegoating here folks.
    FFS man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    FFS man
    Hey it's the post monitor guy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Coppy under investigation - fired.

    Hart under investigation - not fired.

    There's enough smoke to prevent Hart from interviewing GM candidates, but that doesn't get him fired YET. It was, however, enough to get Coppy fired.

    Yeah, definitely no scapegoating here folks.
    FIFY

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfree80 View Post
    FIFY
    Suspicion was enough to get Coppy fired. It's not enough to get Hart fired. Hmm...

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    the writing is on the wall for Hart...tick tock tick tock

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    the writing is on the wall for Hart...tick tock tick tock
    Tune in tomorrow on Hannity to find out what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Suspicion was enough to get Coppy fired. It's not enough to get Hart fired. Hmm...
    Why would you call it suspicion?

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    Further this goes along, the more I believe Hart will be gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonCowboy View Post
    Further this goes along, the more I believe Hart will be gone.
    The fact that there has been no movement on the GM front makes me wonder as well.

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    It would be in the best interest of the club to see Hart and JS gone. We need a new FO and manager. As long as we don’t lose Maitan and the #8 pick I’m good with whatever.

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    Any chance it’s just a hefty fine and not picks or signings? To me it’s bad business. You have a bad team with a new park already. Take away future picks or signings and it makes things that worse. Maybe someone like the Red Sox, who will just go throw money at it. Really hurts a mid market team that is already bad as is though. That’s not good for the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    Any chance it’s just a hefty fine and not picks or signings? To me it’s bad business. You have a bad team with a new park already. Take away future picks or signings and it makes things that worse. Maybe someone like the Red Sox, who will just go throw money at it. Really hurts a mid market team that is already bad as is though. That’s not good for the league.
    I think at minimum we are looking at a fine and losing the international picks that were shady this past summer.

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