Average American Family Pays $6K a Year in Subsidies to Big Business

[acesfull86]

So, in a narrow sense, you have a point. I'd still view it as a systemic issue rather than a "government problem," per se. Business uses government as a means to an end, and we have simply a government problem? That sounds suspiciously like an argument that I suspect you'd disagree with: if a criminal robs you at gunpoint, do you have simply a gun problem?

The problem there (IMO) is that I don't view this as "business using government as a means to an end." It's a two way street. The gun is just an inanimate object.

[goldfly]

I'll take my chances with big business over big gov't any day.

Business doesn't create and enforce the law of the land.

[acesfull86]

Yeah, about what I expected from a troll.

I guess I'm supposed to be pissed at big business for the corporate welfare it receives and not the government that is in bed with them making these rules.

[thethe]

Yeah, about what I expected from a troll.

I guess I'm supposed to be pissed at big business for the corporate welfare it receives and not the government that is in bed with them making these rules.

I'm passed at both but we have to understand that big business is government.

[57Brave]

It is as long as you keep voting for people that block effective Campaign Finance Reform and vote for candidates that support Citizens United

[gilesfan]

Where can I go to only pay 6k per year? That would be a steal.

[goldfly]

Yeah, about what I expected from a troll.

I guess I'm supposed to be pissed at big business for the corporate welfare it receives and not the government that is in bed with them making these rules.

troll??

you can be mad at both like i am

but if you believe what i quoted before, that is some mind blowing **** imo

[acesfull86]

troll??

you can be mad at both like i am

but if you believe what i quoted before, that is some mind blowing **** imo

So why exactly should I prefer big government to big business? And am I wrong that the Constitution gives Congress the power to pass legislation, not big business?

[goldfly]

So why exactly should I prefer big government to big business? And am I wrong that the Constitution gives Congress the power to pass legislation, not big business?

it's like you don't live and pay attention to reality

[acesfull86]

it's like you don't live and pay attention to reality

And this is what I mean by troll

[zitothebrave]

So why exactly should I prefer big government to big business? And am I wrong that the Constitution gives Congress the power to pass legislation, not big business?

Why would you prefer either?

[goldfly]

And this is what I mean by troll

it is mind blowing for you to say this: " And am I wrong that the Constitution gives Congress the power to pass legislation, not big business?"

and for me to take it serious

yeah, that is what was written in the 1700's

here in 2013, who actually writes the laws that congress passes?

if you aren't being honest about it, then i really don't know what to tell ya

[sturg33]

it is mind blowing for you to say this: " And am I wrong that the Constitution gives Congress the power to pass legislation, not big business?"

and for me to take it serious

yeah, that is what was written in the 1700's

here in 2013, who actually writes the laws that congress passes?

if you aren't being honest about it, then i really don't know what to tell ya

Sorry - who did you say passes the laws?

[acesfull86]

Why would you prefer either?

I wouldn't want either taken to its extreme...was just responding to thethe's comment that we should be more worried about business than govt. I disagree.

[goldfly]

Sorry - who did you say passes the laws?

"if you're headed to the grave you don't blame the hearse"