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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacheaholic View Post
    Hopefully they can decide if they're contenders next year early in the off-season. I want them to sign Machado badly. He's a huge upgrade over Camargo and Swanson.
    Well, with the acquisitions of O'Day, Gausman and Duvall, I have the 2019 payroll sitting at around $75M. Assuming a payroll in the $120M-$125M range, that's $45M-$50M to spend with holes in LF, both catchers, and probably 3B and 1-2 BP arms.

    I'm thinking that, just maybe, giving Machado $35M-$40M per year isn't the best way to fill out a complete roster with that limited payroll.

    Oh yeah, and giving a single player 30% of the payroll is also proven to always be a bad idea.
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    There has to be a bench bat out there to add before Sept 1, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Well, with the acquisitions of O'Day, Gausman and Duvall, I have the 2019 payroll sitting at around $75M. Assuming a payroll in the $120M-$125M range, that's $45M-$50M to spend with holes in LF, both catchers, and probably 3B and 1-2 BP arms.

    I'm thinking that, just maybe, giving Machado $35M-$40M per year isn't the best way to fill out a complete roster with that limited payroll.

    Oh yeah, and giving a single player 30% of the payroll is also proven to always be a bad idea.
    One thing I learned from this year is we should always leave 5-10 million unspent. Rentals are so cheap if you can take on money. Build your team and plan to get a couple of rentals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Well, with the acquisitions of O'Day, Gausman and Duvall, I have the 2019 payroll sitting at around $75M. Assuming a payroll in the $120M-$125M range, that's $45M-$50M to spend with holes in LF, http://www.chopcountry.com/forums/fo...ay.php?f=2both catchers, and probably 3B and 1-2 BP arms.

    I'm thinking that, just maybe, giving Machado $35M-$40M per year isn't the best way to fill out a complete roster with that limited payroll.

    Oh yeah, and giving a single player 30% of the payroll is also proven to always be a bad idea.
    Honest question here... With RA Jr. appearing less proficient in the OF than expected, is there a chance we are looking for a RF rather than LF for the future... or is it a question of minimal importance with RA able to fill either spot?

    Maybe go with the best fit offensively and figure out positions from there.

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    By the way, I think for this year they're handling Dansby correctly. Occasionally sit him from time to time, but don't let it dwindle into what it was last year for him. Make it semi part time.

    But in the offseason, if he can't come around some from the swoon he's been in since June 10th, you have to consider...
    Is it worth giving him one last chance to state his case as a starter for another 2 or 3 months?
    Should the tires be kicked on Albies going back to SS?

    I'm thinking we see a versatile infielder than can hit right handed pitching signed and Swanson is given another shot.
    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfree80 View Post
    Honest question here... With RA Jr. appearing less proficient in the OF than expected, is there a chance we are looking for a RF rather than LF for the future... or is it a question of minimal importance with RA able to fill either spot?

    Maybe go with the best fit offensively and figure out positions from there.
    I'm wondering if he'd be better in right. I didn't watch minor league baseball last year, but supposedly his arm is very, very inaccurate in left but much better in center, I haven't heard on right. About 2/3rds of his issues in the outfield are he's not used to playing the angles and his arm is laughably inaccurate in left field. The other third is he's poor at running routes.

    It was thought that he might stay in LF due to LF being more spacious than RF in SunTrust, but if his arm is more accurate from right, you might have to reverse course and switch him to right.
    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfree80 View Post
    Honest question here... With RA Jr. appearing less proficient in the OF than expected, is there a chance we are looking for a RF rather than LF for the future... or is it a question of minimal importance with RA able to fill either spot?

    Maybe go with the best fit offensively and figure out positions from there.
    I’m not worried about his defense at all. I just think he’s young.

    I don’t think he has natural instincts like pache but I’d think he’ll be plus and able to play cf until late twenties

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfree80 View Post
    Honest question here... With RA Jr. appearing less proficient in the OF than expected, is there a chance we are looking for a RF rather than LF for the future... or is it a question of minimal importance with RA able to fill either spot?

    Maybe go with the best fit offensively and figure out positions from there.
    Small samples galore but DRS has Acuna better in center and right than in left. Also he's an average defender in left for the season so far so he's not a liability in anyway imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaGirl View Post
    By the way, I think for this year they're handling Dansby correctly. Occasionally sit him from time to time, but don't let it dwindle into what it was last year for him. Make it semi part time.

    But in the offseason, if he can't come around some from the swoon he's been in since June 10th, you have to consider...
    Is it worth giving him one last chance to state his case as a starter for another 2 or 3 months?
    Should the tires be kicked on Albies going back to SS?

    I'm thinking we see a versatile infielder than can hit right handed pitching signed and Swanson is given another shot.
    Moving Albies to ss makes a lot of sense.

    Maybe the orioles trade disco for dansby. Maybe someone else wants him.

    Comargo could go to second. We could sign dozier. We could bring up Riley.

    If we had moose, Albies comargo and dozier alternating between 3b ss and 2b that would be good. Dozier would be by far the most expensive.

    With moose and dozier being traded neither costs a pick. I think those two are much mor3 realistic than Harper and machado

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfree80 View Post
    Honest question here... With RA Jr. appearing less proficient in the OF than expected, is there a chance we are looking for a RF rather than LF for the future... or is it a question of minimal importance with RA able to fill either spot?

    Maybe go with the best fit offensively and figure out positions from there.
    LF/RF, doesn't really matter. The Braves will be looking for a cOFer.

    I'm hoping for Pollock, but I'm getting a sneaking suspicion we are going to see a LHH platooned with Duvall. AA was adamant about acquiring guys with control, and getting a bench bat with team control doesn't really make a whole lot of sense unless he is going to be used to fill at least a part time role.

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    Swanson is a defense first SS who will provide 1-2 wins for league minimum in 2019. He isn't going anywhere. Once he hits arb all bets are off, but I'd go ahead and pencil him in as the opening day SS for 2019 while he's cheap.

    With all the IF shuffling this year, Albies still hasn't moved off 2B for even a single inning. He is going to be the guy at 2B, period.

    All this speculation should be reigned in by what's actually happening in reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Swanson is a defense first SS who will provide 1-2 wins for league minimum in 2019. He isn't going anywhere. Once he hits arb all bets are off, but I'd go ahead and pencil him in as the opening day SS for 2019 while he's cheap.

    With all the IF shuffling this year, Albies still hasn't moved off 2B for even a single inning. He is going to be the guy at 2B, period.

    All this speculation should be reigned in by what's actually happening in reality.
    Yep. According to fangraphs, Dansby is #19 in mlb in def value. The braves are attempting to build with pitching... a good defensive SS is important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaGirl View Post
    By the way, I think for this year they're handling Dansby correctly. Occasionally sit him from time to time, but don't let it dwindle into what it was last year for him. Make it semi part time.

    But in the offseason, if he can't come around some from the swoon he's been in since June 10th, you have to consider...
    Is it worth giving him one last chance to state his case as a starter for another 2 or 3 months?
    Should the tires be kicked on Albies going back to SS?

    I'm thinking we see a versatile infielder than can hit right handed pitching signed and Swanson is given another shot.
    If we could use him as a centerpiece to get a legit ace, I'd trade him without thinking twice and sign Igelsias in the off-season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    If we could use him as a centerpiece to get a legit ace, I'd trade him without thinking twice and sign Igelsias in the off-season.
    He doesn't have that kind of value now. Maybe before he showed the world he couldn't hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    If we could use him as a centerpiece to get a legit ace, I'd trade him without thinking twice and sign Igelsias in the off-season.
    if you hate watching swanson hit you’ll really hate watching iglesias.
    it’s not like dansby is hopeless with the bat.
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    Maybe, when the NL gets the DH, they will let us DH for Dansby and let the pitcher hit. At least they can move runners over...Dansby can't even do that as of late.

    Better yet maybe we can have Dansby be a DF...Designated fielder and let anyone else on the roster hit for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsehide Harry View Post
    He doesn't have that kind of value now. Maybe before he showed the world he couldn't hit.
    Elite defensive SS still hold plenty of value and a team could bank on Swanson living up to his offensive potential. He still has 4 years of control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    if you hate watching swanson hit you’ll really hate watching iglesias.
    it’s not like dansby is hopeless with the bat.
    Not really concerned with the SS bat as long as we are getting elite defense. But we simply don't have top position prospects necessary to land a legit ace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsehide Harry View Post
    He doesn't have that kind of value now. Maybe before he showed the world he couldn't hit.
    Do you think we could get Shelby Miller for him?

    Dansby, Inciarte and a middling prospect for Miller? That seems fair.

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