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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay212033 View Post
    The thing is Yates has been better than Hand plus we'd have Yates for another season.
    He doesn't have an extra year of control. He has 1 year remaining of control. Hand has 1 year guaranteed and an option for 2020.

    And even if Yates did have more control, an extra year of control for what would be a 34 year old journeyman reliever really isn't that valuable.
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    Acuna 2.7 fWAR
    Soto 0.9 fWAR

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Acuna 2.7 fWAR
    Soto 0.9 fWAR
    pretty close

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Acuna 2.7 fWAR
    Soto 0.9 fWAR
    Why don't they make him 1b?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Why don't they make him 1b?
    It's hard to learn a new position when you're as old as he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Why don't they make him 1b?
    they dumb?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Why don't they make him 1b?
    aw man we need to go back your posts on the two from last year. for good fun's sake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    aw man we need to go back your posts on the two from last year. for good fun's sake.
    Hats off to acuna for really improving his defense... there's your whole difference. Soto is just as good offensively

    ETA... should've said with the bat. Acuna is far superior on bases

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Hats off to acuna for really improving his defense... there's your whole difference. Soto is just as good offensively

    ETA... should've said with the bat. Acuna is far superior on bases
    i mean yeah but the point was always Acuña projected to be a much better all-around player even if his bat initially lagged behind. he quickly closed that gap. those posts were gold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Hats off to acuna for really improving his defense... there's your whole difference. Soto is just as good offensively

    ETA... should've said with the bat. Acuna is far superior on bases
    Soto is not just as good offensively

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    the question regarding Soto is whether he is a late bloomer or really late bloomer
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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Soto is not just as good offensively
    Surprised to see his OPS drop over a 100 pts.

    When the Nationals shellacked us at Suntrust a few weeks ago he was in the 1.000 range IIRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Soto is not just as good offensively
    Soto...
    13.2 bb, 22.6 k
    .887 ops
    .211 iso
    131 wRC+
    .377 wOBA

    Acuna...
    9.3 bb, 24.1 k
    .882 ops
    .211 iso
    129 wRC+
    .373 wOBA

    Look pretty equal to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Individual-1 View Post
    Surprised to see his OPS drop over a 100 pts.

    When the Nationals shellacked us at Suntrust a few weeks ago he was in the 1.000 range IIRC.
    He had an insane May but has struggled this month so far. Old age is causing him to be inconsistent.

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    Pretty sure the consensus since both guys broke onto the scene was that Soto would be a better offensive performer, but Acuna would be the more valuable player overall. That is largely holding true in the early portions of their careers...so far. I will never again put some sort of limit on Acuna's future though, so he may very well be better than Soto in every measurable way as soon as next week.

    Acuna is going well right now, and Soto is struggling, so Braves fans are obviously going to use this opportunity to show how great Acuna is compared to Soto. We didn't see any such comparisons around here a few weeks ago when Acuna was struggling and Soto was tearing things up, and we won't see any such comps the next time Acuna goes through a rough stretch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Soto...
    13.2 bb, 22.6 k
    .887 ops
    .211 iso
    131 wRC+
    .377 wOBA

    Acuna...
    9.3 bb, 24.1 k
    .882 ops
    .211 iso
    129 wRC+
    .373 wOBA

    Look pretty equal to me
    Yeah but he’s like 20 years older. But in all seriousness after his slow start I didn’t realize he turned it up so much in the past several weeks

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    Trade value experts, what do you think of clv's idea of camargo for a closer? How much value does camargo and how does that stack up with the closers likely to be available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Trade value experts, what do you think of clv's idea of camargo for a closer? How much value does camargo and how does that stack up with the closers likely to be available?
    I think he is more valuable to our team than he is on the market. A competing team shouldn’t trade viable depth away for anything. Use the resources that are more disposable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    I think he is more valuable to our team than he is on the market. A competing team shouldn’t trade viable depth away for anything. Use the resources that are more disposable.
    Agreed on all counts. We are more likely to trade away guys who not yet at the major league level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    I think he is more valuable to our team than he is on the market. A competing team shouldn’t trade viable depth away for anything. Use the resources that are more disposable.
    But how valuable is he to us right now? He's at -0.3 fWAR, and someone is gonna have to go to get ender back on the 25. Culberson can play all positions camargo can. Seems like camargo will be in AAA soon

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