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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Keuchel is a mid rotation starter that gets a lot of value by eating up innings. I get that he won a cy young a few years back but that's not the pitcher he is today.
    That comment was made by a guy who wanted to give up Newk and Fried for Bumgarner, and then extend him for 6 more years...another playdoh eater you don't take seriously when they make dinner suggestions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Ranger fans think they will get something for minor but reality will be harsh. He is a pitcher living on luck with no control. I will be shocked if he gets much more than one 45 guy.
    Like every other SP likely to be traded, Minor makes sense at the right price. We know what the price is for rental arms. Anyone suggesting otherwise can simply be treated like an ignorant child and ignored

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    The contender's premium applies to their expected production during the rest of 2019. The other years that they are under contractual control should be priced without any premium.
    Not sure how this is responsive, but yes.

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    If we trade with the Rangers get Gallo and use Neck off the bench. Won’t happen I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    If we trade with the Rangers get Gallo and use Neck off the bench. Won’t happen I know.
    I love Gallo, so I'm all down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyTrain View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyTrain View Post
    Did you forget that we have Keuchel?
    Given some of the NL rotations (Nats, Dodgers, Cubs), we need another SP to matchup with them.

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    Looking around the game, i'm not even sure who is "selling"

    KC, Tor, Det, Mia, Bal, CHW, Sea are the only teams not buried in the 2nd WC right now.

    Everyone else is around 5 games back, so it's tough to know who is actually giving up now. Should know more in a week or so.

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    Cincy isn’t in a playoff hunt. Castillo still makes a lot of sense and sets us up well with another good young controllable starter to pair with Soroka.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    Cincy isn’t in a playoff hunt. Castillo still makes a lot of sense and sets us up well with another good young controllable starter to pair with Soroka.
    is Castillo even available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    Cincy isn’t in a playoff hunt. Castillo still makes a lot of sense and sets us up well with another good young controllable starter to pair with Soroka.
    Makes a lot of sense for the Braves.... not much sense for the Reds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    Cincy isn’t in a playoff hunt. Castillo still makes a lot of sense and sets us up well with another good young controllable starter to pair with Soroka.
    The problem is that Castillo is controllable enough that Cincy likely feels that he's going to be a contributor when they actually are competitive. I don't see them trading him unless its for a ridiculous overpay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Makes a lot of sense for the Braves.... not much sense for the Reds
    How so? Would they not be getting top flight young talent back??

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanieAntics View Post
    The problem is that Castillo is controllable enough that Cincy likely feels that he's going to be a contributor when they actually are competitive. I don't see them trading him unless its for a ridiculous overpay.
    With the Cubs, Brewers, and Cards all being a lot better than them it’ll be 3 or 4 years before they surpass or come close to passing those teams. By then his control will be minimal.

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    If only it was as simple as being able to tell teams they are not in contention. GMs are trying to keep their job, not help the next GM have a great farm system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    With the Cubs, Brewers, and Cards all being a lot better than them it’ll be 3 or 4 years before they surpass or come close to passing those teams. By then his control will be minimal.
    That may or may not be reality, but I think that is a pretty tough sell to the GM of the Reds. They've basically been in a rebuild since 2014 and I don't think they're just gonna accept the notion that they'll still be in a rebuild in 2023.

    Plus, I think you're kinda overstating the futility of their current situation. The Cubs are on the back end of their competitive window and have major issues to address moving forward. The Cardinals always seen to find a way to be decent, but that team doesn't appear to be approach juggernaut status any time soon. Outside of a few guys, a lot of the Brewer's core is either aging or on very short term deals. Plus their pitching isn't anything to write home about. I think its completely possible that the NL Central is wide open by 2021. Even more so than it is today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanieAntics View Post
    That may or may not be reality, but I think that is a pretty tough sell to the GM of the Reds. They've basically been in a rebuild since 2014 and I don't think they're just gonna accept the notion that they'll still be in a rebuild in 2023.

    Plus, I think you're kinda overstating the futility of their current situation. The Cubs are on the back end of their competitive window and have major issues to address moving forward. The Cardinals always seen to find a way to be decent, but that team doesn't appear to be approach juggernaut status any time soon. Outside of a few guys, a lot of the Brewer's core is either aging or on very short term deals. Plus their pitching isn't anything to write home about. I think its completely possible that the NL Central is wide open by 2021. Even more so than it is today.
    Would you consider us to be juggernaut status? If not, how about if we acquired Stroman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    If only it was as simple as being able to tell teams they are not in contention. GMs are trying to keep their job, not help the next GM have a great farm system.
    Sometimes a GM is fully supported in a rebuild because everyone is on the same page and knows its the right thing to do. The Reds are currently 6 years removed from their last winning season and have a handful of young assets that they can build around. They don't fit the bill of a team that is going to be looking to rebuild. If they get a few breaks and make some good decisions, I could totally see them making a playoff push in 2020 or 2021.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Individual-1 View Post
    Would you consider us to be juggernaut status? If not, how about if we acquired Stroman.
    No. We're good, but I would only put the label juggernaut on the top 3-4 teams in the league and I'd have us more in the 5-6 range. Even with Stroman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Individual-1 View Post
    Would you consider us to be juggernaut status? If not, how about if we acquired Stroman.
    At least juggernut status, in that case.
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