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    GDT 9/3 vs Cubs

    Montgomery is Fried with lesser stuff. Very interested to see Fried over an extended outing, and hopefully to get some data on his change.

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    Is his change best pitch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Is his change best pitch?
    No idea, we haven't seen it. The curve is probably the best pitch on the Braves roster right now though. I could hang an easy 65 on it, maybe better.

    After 1 batter it's apparent his 93 fastball was due to letting it fly out of the BP.

    Looks like he is going to sit around 90 as a SP. That might work if the change is good and the control is plus.

    If not, well, he won't make it as a SP with that velo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    No idea, we haven't seen it. The curve is probably the best pitch on the Braves roster right now though. I could hang an easy 65 on it, maybe better.

    After 1 batter it's apparent his 93 fastball was due to letting it fly out of the BP.

    Looks like he is going to sit around 90 as a SP. That might work if the change is good and the control is plus.

    If not, well, he won't make it as a SP with that velo.
    Let's see a few more in innings, Baseball America watched his last start and he sat 89-91 first inning and his last 4 he sat 92-94 touching 96.

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    Can we please just sit Freddie for a week or two and see how he feels

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackwaterPark View Post
    Can we please just sit Freddie for a week or two and see how he feels
    Sit em the rest of the year. Lord willing, Adams would get real hot and someone want him in the offseason

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    There's the curve lol

    Poor Rizzo haha

    First one he threw was ok, but the second one was a hammer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomabrave View Post
    Let's see a few more in innings, Baseball America watched his last start and he sat 89-91 first inning and his last 4 he sat 92-94 touching 96.
    I'd always heard low 90's around 92-94 and could reach back for some more...his curve at times has been described as one of the best in the minors...for those that might not know but most do I'm sure, Fried and Giolito were high school teammates one being the top right handed arm in HS and Fried being one of the best left handed ones...this was all before his Tommy John however

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    There's the curve lol

    Poor Rizzo haha
    I'm currently just keeping up on my phone...did it buckle him?

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    He's throwing something weird at 83-84. Maybe a slider? Looks like a pitch that needs to go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveAKAslick View Post
    I'm currently just keeping up on my phone...did it buckle him?
    First one made him flinch a bit and was actually a hanger. It wasn't very good, but still effective.

    Second one was an absolute downer over the inside corner that Rizzo missed by a foot.

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    Garbage missed strike call led to that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    No idea, we haven't seen it. The curve is probably the best pitch on the Braves roster right now though. I could hang an easy 65 on it, maybe better.

    After 1 batter it's apparent his 93 fastball was due to letting it fly out of the BP.

    Looks like he is going to sit around 90 as a SP. That might work if the change is good and the control is plus.

    If not, well, he won't make it as a SP with that velo.
    that's what happens to 90 MPH fastballs

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    That's all it took was that review to get him out of a groove

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    Thaat's what happens to straight 90 MPH fastballs.

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    Still haven't seen the change to a RHed batter.

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    You know what the Braves really need to abandon completely?

    The idea of "Take a little off, go for control and command, control and command is better than hot stuff".
    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaGirl View Post
    You know what the Braves really need to abandon completely?

    The idea of "Take a little off, go for control and command, control and command is better than hot stuff".
    They still think it's the 90's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    that's what happens to 90 MPH fastballs
    It has below average movement. It is a fringe average pitch at 93. At 90 it's barely usable, probably unusable.
    Last edited by Enscheff; 09-03-2017 at 02:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Thaat's what happens to straight 90 MPH fastballs.
    Yeah it probably wouldn't have mattered how fast that one was though, he served that one up pretty well with zero movement

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