I think Ervin/Johan also got caught using another guy's birth certificate in order to appear a bit younger, which necessitated the name change more than, "Golly, I want to change my name."
I think Ervin/Johan also got caught using another guy's birth certificate in order to appear a bit younger, which necessitated the name change more than, "Golly, I want to change my name."
Originally Posted by Julio3000
Forever Fredi
You sure about that?
I don't remember Ervin being one of those guys.
Indeed: I hadn't read, and haven't found anything just now, to substantiate that. Source?
"For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."
I don't need a source, punk!
Also, this:
When he signed on September 2, 2000, Ervin Santana was neither Ervin nor 16.
Santana used the birth certificate of a relative to make the Angels think he was younger than he was. It was not an uncommon practice at the time. The name he gave was Johan Quezada Santana, with a date of birth of November 28, 1983. His real name was Ervin Ramon Santana, and he was born on December 12, 1982 — eleven months earlier than he claimed.
The discrepancy was discovered during the winter of 2002-2003, as part of an industry-wide investigation. Some Dominicans were found to be years older than they claimed, so eleven months wasn’t that big a deal.
I saw Ervin pitch for the Angels in fall instructional league on October 5, 2000. It was at the Angels’ old minor league complex, Gene Autry Park, in Mesa, Arizona. If it wasn’t his first start in the U.S., it was one of his first.
TB fans disagree.
"Yes, I did think Aldrich was good UNTIL I SAW HIM PLAY. "- thethe
Classic Giles
Damn: he should've stuck with Quezada.
"For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."
Yep. B.J. didn't hustle there. It's one clip. But you can't deny the work B.J. has done consistently off the field. Read all the stories on it. B.J. didn't suck on the field last year because he wasn't putting in work off the field. You want to know who was lazy off the field? Andruw Jones. Had he taken better care of himself he wouldn't have come crashing down to earth as fast he did.
I am a Rays fan as well. Read all the articles. B.J. puts in ample work and then some off the field.
We aren't talking about Andrew, we are talking about BJ. I'm sure you can find other clips of BJ not giving 100% if you looked hard enough. He doesn't always give 100%. I'm sure he does work hard off the field, most players do. I never said he didn't put in the work off the field because I have no way of knowing but on the field he's lazy. He doesn't run out ground balls and lets balls fall in front of him that he could easily get too if he would hustle. Andrew did this once and Bobby yanked him for it, after that I never saw it from him again.
It opens up the option of calling him Magic Santana, though.
Julio3000 (03-13-2014)
Yep.
My all-time fave Ervin.
jpx7 (03-13-2014)
Black Magic?
Just as long as Matchbox 20 never becomes involved.
"For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."
Dalyn (03-13-2014)
I think that was just Rob Thomas.
He's the whole problem with that band.
What's wrong with Rob Thomas? Am I missing something...?
Rob Thomas is a whore
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