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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
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    Now that I’ve read the entire transcript of @nytmike’s Trump interview, a few observations:

    1. Trump speaks a lot like a child does. Lots of focus on who likes him, who loves him, who is his friend...

    his biographers all emphasize his deep desire to be loved & it comes through.
    The really weird part of his personality is the desire for love and approval combined with the extreme unlikeability. I can't think of anyone else with that combination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    key phrase being, "for awhile"

    the two were both legislative endeavors, the similarities end there/

    one was formed in the dark without ratings or public hearings -- the other raked over the coals for over a year

    one was instituted over a period of a few years, the other thrown together and handed the populace a couple weeks before the New Year begins

    The one similarity is we have no idea how either work , the mechanics, at their inception.

    What do you know about the kurfluffle in NY State over property tax exemptions ?

    the cluster **** surrounding the tax bill was only similar to the cluster **** surrounding Trump/Ryan/McConnel Care

    https://mic.com/articles/176301/obam...one#.QTyUQHo8t
    Well, "for a while" meant until they ended Stupak's career and the other D congressmen jumped to comply so they could avoid the same fate.

    Being "legislative endeavors" is not the only similarity.
    Both were framed as seeking bipartisan support when both were always going to be unipartisan.
    Both had to be rushed at the end to keep an incoming, opposition party, senator from having an impact.
    Both were the major legislative accomplishments that the President would hang their hat on.
    Both were used to pay off special interest groups that helped elect the party in power.
    Both epitomized their party's stance on taxes perfectly: Democrats got to raise taxes, tell us all how much it would save us, manipulate the CBO scoring, buy themselves a better plan for Congress, waste most of the tax money on bureaucracy, give a small, not very good, handout to the poor, and stick the middle class with the bill. Republicans got to cut taxes without having the cajones to cut spending with it, engineer it to blow up after they are out of power, give a huge break to corporations and the uber-wealthy, and stick the next generation with the bill.
    They are really quite similar.

    Your evaluation of one being thrown together in a couple of weeks and the other instituted over years is...imaginative...when one considers that we have had tax calculator websites for several weeks that analyze the tax reform plan's impact on individual families. There was literally no one on earth who could break down the ACA until weeks after it passed, and the Speaker of the House claimed we needed to pass it before discovering what it contained.
    Go get him!

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    did I miss the congressional, public, hearings this past month ?

    you left out how the O Administration was double crossed by (R)

    you have also left out how ACA began as a single payer and went to Romney style to accommodate (R)

    And the CBO rankings were in place at each step of ACA as opposed to

    you can look all of this up - it wasn't all that long ago
    ................

    you are right that a lot of ACA was cobbled together late, as most bills are, you are right that it barely got past the goal line (with 60 votes - because filibuster was still an option)

    and like this latest tax bill, and most heavy legislation, we don't know what is in it until it passes.
    Which is why I am hesitant to get in the weeds of policy

    Like I said for all practical purposes the similarities end at both were legislative endeavors.
    Take a minute and look up the history of the Civil Rights Act of 64 or VRA of 65
    You might as well cmpare this tax bill to those

    Let me add, one was designed to get and keep people in health insurance to better the well being of the citizenry.
    The other - not so much

    you tell me which is which
    .................

    let's explore your imaginative claim.

    One had goals laid out by T Roosevelt
    The other a knee jerk reaction to the New Deal and mostly defined as a goal by Herbert Hoover
    but hey.
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    Fox and Friends has assured Trump he is still popular

    stew on that for a few


    why did Sessions,Flynn,DonJR Jared etal lie about Russian contacts ?

    Last edited by 57Brave; 12-29-2017 at 10:37 AM.
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    This from a cast member of Jersey Shore.
    To think a TV reality star know more than POTUS.
    oh, wait ...


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    That may be. So I hope people stop pointing to higher temperatures as proof of global warming, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    your President:



    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

    Why is the United States Post Office, which is losing many billions of dollars a year,

    while charging Amazon and others so little to deliver their packages, making Amazon

    richer and the Post Office dumber and poorer? Should be charging MUCH MORE!


    The Rude Pundit‏ @rudepundit



    This is some "old man yells at cloud" **** right here.



    Matthew Yglesias Retweeted Vox

    My main question about this is does Trump know he can appoint the people who run the Postal Service?

    Matthew Yglesias added,

    Is Amazon really ripping off the US Postal Service? https://www.vox.com/2017/12/29/16830...source=twitter

    Matthew Yglesias



    All nine presidentially appointed slots on the USPS Board of Governors are currently vacant ... instead of tweeting he could use his powers of office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    That may be. So I hope people stop pointing to higher temperatures as proof of global warming, right?
    Individual high temperatures, right? Because if you're talking about the sustained temperature increases around the world, you might want to read about the subject more.

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    Wonder how much Gore made peddling lies....
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    Kenneth P. Vogel‏Verified account @kenvogel

    Trump is planning to attend the NYE party at Mar-a-Lago,

    where they increased ticket prices to $600 for dues-paying members

    & $750 for guests.

    Last year’s tickets went for $525 for members & $575 for guests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Kenneth P. Vogel‏Verified account @kenvogel

    Trump is planning to attend the NYE party at Mar-a-Lago,

    where they increased ticket prices to $600 for dues-paying members

    & $750 for guests.

    Last year’s tickets went for $525 for members & $575 for guests.
    Inflation.

    Cheaper by percentage for me to attend a local event here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Matthew Yglesias Retweeted Vox

    My main question about this is does Trump know he can appoint the people who run the Postal Service?

    Matthew Yglesias added,

    Is Amazon really ripping off the US Postal Service? https://www.vox.com/2017/12/29/16830...source=twitter

    Matthew Yglesias



    All nine presidentially appointed slots on the USPS Board of Governors are currently vacant ... instead of tweeting he could use his powers of office.
    Vox?

    Dude, seriously.

    National Enquirer material there.

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    Sam Stein‏Verified account @samstein

    Sam Stein Retweeted Kenneth P. Vogel

    Imagine President ... hosting a NYE’s event at the ... Foundation

    HQs and charging people to attend. It would cause a country-wide fever panic…


    and for good reason. This isn’t even for a charity. It’s for his own club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AerchAngel View Post

    Vox?

    Dude, seriously.

    National Enquirer material there.
    you obviously didn't read the article
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    ORIGINAL STORY: For over a week, a private helicopter bearing the Trump logo and name has sat on the helipad at Mar-a-Lago -- a helipad that is supposed to be used only for presidential business.

    Until Donald Trump became president, aircraft were forbidden from landing in the exclusive island town. But the town agreed to allow a helipad to be built and helicopters to land at Mar-a-Lago with certain conditions: The helipad must be removed when the president leaves office. Until then, the helipad can only be used for official presidential business.

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    Matthew Yglesias
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    Trump is so authentic he champions working

    class interests from his expensive Florida beach club where

    wealthy businessmen with interests before the government


    pay him cash in exchange for policy favors.



    read that out loud
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    It must be killing you how much good Trump has done in his first year. ****, its even possible that he helped create the conditions for Iran to be free again. Remember, the adults are now in charge and the world is better off for it.
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