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" A lot of collusion "
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
Well, "for a while" meant until they ended Stupak's career and the other D congressmen jumped to comply so they could avoid the same fate.
Being "legislative endeavors" is not the only similarity.
Both were framed as seeking bipartisan support when both were always going to be unipartisan.
Both had to be rushed at the end to keep an incoming, opposition party, senator from having an impact.
Both were the major legislative accomplishments that the President would hang their hat on.
Both were used to pay off special interest groups that helped elect the party in power.
Both epitomized their party's stance on taxes perfectly: Democrats got to raise taxes, tell us all how much it would save us, manipulate the CBO scoring, buy themselves a better plan for Congress, waste most of the tax money on bureaucracy, give a small, not very good, handout to the poor, and stick the middle class with the bill. Republicans got to cut taxes without having the cajones to cut spending with it, engineer it to blow up after they are out of power, give a huge break to corporations and the uber-wealthy, and stick the next generation with the bill.
They are really quite similar.
Your evaluation of one being thrown together in a couple of weeks and the other instituted over years is...imaginative...when one considers that we have had tax calculator websites for several weeks that analyze the tax reform plan's impact on individual families. There was literally no one on earth who could break down the ACA until weeks after it passed, and the Speaker of the House claimed we needed to pass it before discovering what it contained.
Go get him!
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did I miss the congressional, public, hearings this past month ?
you left out how the O Administration was double crossed by (R)
you have also left out how ACA began as a single payer and went to Romney style to accommodate (R)
And the CBO rankings were in place at each step of ACA as opposed to
you can look all of this up - it wasn't all that long ago
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you are right that a lot of ACA was cobbled together late, as most bills are, you are right that it barely got past the goal line (with 60 votes - because filibuster was still an option)
and like this latest tax bill, and most heavy legislation, we don't know what is in it until it passes.
Which is why I am hesitant to get in the weeds of policy
Like I said for all practical purposes the similarities end at both were legislative endeavors.
Take a minute and look up the history of the Civil Rights Act of 64 or VRA of 65
You might as well cmpare this tax bill to those
Let me add, one was designed to get and keep people in health insurance to better the well being of the citizenry.
The other - not so much
you tell me which is which
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let's explore your imaginative claim.
One had goals laid out by T Roosevelt
The other a knee jerk reaction to the New Deal and mostly defined as a goal by Herbert Hoover
but hey.
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The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
Fox and Friends has assured Trump he is still popular
stew on that for a few
why did Sessions,Flynn,DonJR Jared etal lie about Russian contacts ?
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The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
This from a cast member of Jersey Shore.
To think a TV reality star know more than POTUS.
oh, wait ...
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
That may be. So I hope people stop pointing to higher temperatures as proof of global warming, right?
Matthew Yglesias Retweeted Vox
My main question about this is does Trump know he can appoint the people who run the Postal Service?
Matthew Yglesias added,
Is Amazon really ripping off the US Postal Service? https://www.vox.com/2017/12/29/16830...source=twitter …
Matthew Yglesias
All nine presidentially appointed slots on the USPS Board of Governors are currently vacant ... instead of tweeting he could use his powers of office.
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Julio3000 (01-02-2018)
Wonder how much Gore made peddling lies....
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Kenneth P. VogelVerified account @kenvogel
Trump is planning to attend the NYE party at Mar-a-Lago,
where they increased ticket prices to $600 for dues-paying members
& $750 for guests.
Last year’s tickets went for $525 for members & $575 for guests.
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Sam SteinVerified account @samstein
Sam Stein Retweeted Kenneth P. Vogel
Imagine President ... hosting a NYE’s event at the ... Foundation
HQs and charging people to attend. It would cause a country-wide fever panic…
and for good reason. This isn’t even for a charity. It’s for his own club.
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ORIGINAL STORY: For over a week, a private helicopter bearing the Trump logo and name has sat on the helipad at Mar-a-Lago -- a helipad that is supposed to be used only for presidential business.
Until Donald Trump became president, aircraft were forbidden from landing in the exclusive island town. But the town agreed to allow a helipad to be built and helicopters to land at Mar-a-Lago with certain conditions: The helipad must be removed when the president leaves office. Until then, the helipad can only be used for official presidential business.
http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/...OE9tG8fPNxw1K/
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Matthew Yglesias
Verified account @mattyglesias
2m2 minutes ago
Trump is so authentic he champions working
class interests from his expensive Florida beach club where
wealthy businessmen with interests before the government
pay him cash in exchange for policy favors.
read that out loud
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
It must be killing you how much good Trump has done in his first year. ****, its even possible that he helped create the conditions for Iran to be free again. Remember, the adults are now in charge and the world is better off for it.
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Could have been reported by the Times over a month ago. But this is not shocking. Maybe since its now in the NYT left will believe it.
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