Your guess is as good as mine, but if Cain’s price drops to 3/45 or similar, wouldn’t a deal for 5, 20 and 20 make some sense? If the goal is to improve the defense, the Braves couldn’t do much better than that.
I doubt the Braves will be giving up a draft pick, and I doubt anyone without a pick attached would be worth bothering with a 3 year backloaded deal.
It was an odd comment by AA. The main thing I took from it was that they don’t have any money to spend, but he may have something up his sleeve none of us has even considered.
Cain on a three year deal wouldn't be bad. Anything more than three years will not be good.
If your willing to spend 45 on Cain. I wonder if the Cubs would trade Heyward for Tehran. With the Cubs paying half of Heywards salary. The Cubs need pitching and they need to clear space to sign Harper. The Braves would have Heyward for somewhere around 6//65. I know Heyward has an opt out but based on the last two years I think it's a very small chance he opts out.
A few things going on in here.
The Granderson signing sucks for us! It takes Toronto out of the equation as a possible trade partner and shows we'd have to eat half of Markakis contract to trade him and not the 20-25% I was thinking.
I think the Pirates have actually done well for themselves. Cole has been trending in the wrong direction the last 2 years in the place where pitchers flourish, and Cutch is bound for a bottomed out season. I could see Crick and Feliz excelling in the pen this year with Rivero and Musgrove could be a good cheap option for the rotation with some upside still. Moran holds down the 3B job the next 3-4 years and Reynolds could be a solid regular as early as next year.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
jpx7 (01-16-2018)
An example is Eugenio Suarez who will have 2 years of control left. The Reds are a bit further away from their window than we are and would presumably be open to this kind of deal.
If the Giants decide to cut payroll after 2018, Samardzija is a candidate on the pitching side. He will have 2 years left on his deal.
Joc Pederson will have 2 years of control left.
The plan writes itself.
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"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
jpx7 (01-16-2018)
nsacpi (01-16-2018)
Must've been at least a few experts here who knew what it would take to get McCutcheon.
Let's play the game and see...
Cutch is projected to produce 2.8 fWAR and cost the Giants $12M. He represents ~$16M in surplus value.
According to this recent FG article: https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/how-...value-players/
Reynolds is a FV 45 position player worth $11M, and Crick is a FV 40 pitcher worth something on the order of $5M-$10M.
Add those up, and the Giants gave the Pirates $16M-$21M for Cutch. Easily within the error bars of the numbers involved.
Seems like the surplus value calculation lines up yet again, but I would chalk this up as a win for the Pirates. They likely had to win the trade to justify sending out the former face of the franchise.
Blue Jays get Girchik (sp?) from Cardinals