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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    I'll still be shocked if anyone in the next 30 years gets 100% of the vote.
    If anyone has a shot it's Jeter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    If anyone has a shot it's Jeter.
    Ken G > Jeter IMO...

    Jeter is only Jeter because he did what he did as a Yankee...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Ken G > Jeter IMO...

    Jeter is only Jeter because he did what he did as a Yankee...
    Yup. But that would be why. Media darling, captain of the Yankees, all that BS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Yup. But that would be why. Media darling, captain of the Yankees, all that BS.
    so true..

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    Votes Percentage
    437 Ken Griffey Jr. 99.3%
    365 Mike Piazza 83.0%
    315 Jeff Bagwell 71.6%
    307 Tim Raines 69.8%
    296 Trevor Hoffman 67.3%
    230 Curt Schilling 52.3%
    199 Roger Clemens 45.2%
    195 Barry Bonds 44.3%
    191 Edgar Martinez 43.4%
    189 Mike Mussina 43.0%
    180 Alan Trammell 40.9%
    150 Lee Smith 34.1%
    92 Fred McGriff 20.9%
    73 Jeff Kent 16.6%
    68 Larry Walker 15.5%
    54 Mark McGwire 12.3%
    51 Gary Sheffield 11.6%
    46 Billy Wagner 10.5%
    31 Sammy Sosa 7.0%
    11 Jim Edmonds 2.5%
    8 Nomar Garciaparra 1.8%
    3 Mike Sweeney 0.7%
    2 David Eckstein 0.5%
    2 Jason Kendall 0.5%
    1 Garret Anderson 0.2%
    0 Brad Ausmus 0.0%
    0 Luis Castillo 0.0%
    0 Troy Glaus 0.0%
    0 Mark Grudzielanek 0.0%
    0 Mike Hampton 0.0%
    0 Mike Lowell 0.0%
    0 Randy Winn 0.0%

    Seriously though? No Mike Hampton Votes? I kid.

    The real tragedy is Jim Edmonds. How did he not get 5% of the votes?

    It's setting up Jeter for 100%
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    I guess in a world where somebody does not cast a ballot for Greg Maddux for the Hall of Fame, it's not that surprising that some dip**** would not vote for Griffey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    I guess in a world where somebody does not cast a ballot for Greg Maddux for the Hall of Fame, it's not that surprising that some dip**** would not vote for Griffey.
    Yeah. Hopefully the 3 dip****s who didn't vote for Griffey will be falling off shortly.
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    Hopefully Raines and Bagwell get in next year. Bonds and Clemens got a decent % more than last year which is good to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Hopefully Raines and Bagwell get in next year. Bonds and Clemens got a decent % more than last year which is good to see.
    Hopefully some more dip****s fall off who didn't vote for them as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    If anyone has a shot it's Jeter.
    Nobody has a shot, though, that's the point.

    Unless somehow every single one of those voters has been kicked out, which I seriously doubt.

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    Bagwell, Raines and Hoffman probably all going in next year. Will be interesting to see how many votes Pudge and Manny get next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Ken G > Jeter IMO...

    Jeter is only Jeter because he did what he did as a Yankee...
    Griffey was way, way better than Jeter. Thinking that Jeter might get in with 100% when Mays and Aaron didn't? It would be a travesty.

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    I think the log jam will clear out in a few years leaving Jeter the perfect situation to be the first to 100%. I thought for sure Bagwell/Raines/Schilling would get and clear some space on the ballot. Nope its gonna be clustered even in Chipper-Thome's year (which also has Rolen and Andruw).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimsnores View Post
    Griffey was way, way better than Jeter. Thinking that Jeter might get in with 100% when Mays and Aaron didn't? It would be a travesty.
    And that's why the 100% thing continues.

    Is Derek Jeter a HOFer? If your answer is yes, then he hsould get in 100%
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    Garrett Anderson have a relative with the BBWA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Is that Ken Griffey, Sr.? It would be great to get another former Brave in the HOF!

    Look at them POWDER BLUES baby!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    I guess in a world where somebody does not cast a ballot for Greg Maddux for the Hall of Fame, it's not that surprising that some dip**** would not vote for Griffey.
    I'd guess you could say there's been improvement if you're a glass half-full type. There were fewer IDIOTS that left Junior off after all.

    A process that keeps either of those two (and many others over the years) from being elected unanimously is still a joke though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    If anyone has a shot it's CHIPPER.
    There ya go - fixed it for ya!!! LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesnumberone View Post
    Bagwell, Raines and Hoffman probably all going in next year. Will be interesting to see how many votes Pudge and Manny get next year.
    Manny has the distinction of being the two-time drug test fail guy. There's absolutely no way he gets 5% in his first year.

    Pudge SHOULD be automatic, unless people think of Palmeiro, Canseco, and A-Rod in the Texas days. That would really hurt Pudge.

    Next year at minimum: Bagwell gets in. Raines likely gets in. Hoffman may move just under the 75%.

    I think Schilling will make a big push next year. He may slip in next year. All of the Mid 90's to early 2000's dominant pitchers are in sans Clemens and Mussina. Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Unit, and Martinez are all in. Schilling should be in that group. Mussina seems to get a lot more favorability lately. Don't know if I'm ready to jump on the wagon just from numbers only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    And that's why the 100% thing continues.

    Is Derek Jeter a HOFer? If your answer is yes, then he hsould get in 100%
    I agree. Is Jeter better than those guys? No. But he is a 100% slam dunk HOFer.

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