I hope the Braves keep Newk in the pen the rest of this year.
I really believe he could be our lesser version of Andrew Miller as long as Snit will use him in multiple innings.
Since we are probably going to be short a piece in the BP anyways may as well let him take 2 innings at a time.
If we have to have a spot start sat then I say let Touki pitch it unless DK is ready.
Also glad Ozzie doesn't suck anymore.I was worried he was going to be in the minors the rest of the season and have to give up switch hitting.
Glad he doesn’t read the board.
Freshmaker (06-11-2019)
I know you get confused. The source of your confusion is likely that WAR is a counting stat, while xwOBA is a rate stat. And math is hard.
WAR is effectiveness over time.
xwOBA is just effectiveness.
So when you say MadBum has 1.1 WAR over 87 IP, Gaus has 0.8 WAR over 62 IP, so therefore MadBum is better, you look like an idiot who doesn't understand 6th grade math. It's like saying the player with 11 HRs in 87 PAs is a better power hitter than the guy with 8 HRs in 62 PAs.
If two pitchers are similar in effectiveness, and one has more IP than the other, simple math dictates the guy with more IP will have a higher WAR.
Now yes, being able to complete innings certainly has value. That's why SPs are more valuable than RPs, even though RPs have a much lower xwOBA. However, moving forward, when Gausman irons out whatever is going on, he will be more effective than MadBum and his WAR will climb faster as he accumulates IP like he customarily has through his entire career.
Let me know if you are still confused. I think I have a 6th grade math textbook lying around somewhere I can reference for help.
Last edited by Enscheff; 06-11-2019 at 11:21 AM.
jpx7 (06-11-2019), NinersSBChamps (06-11-2019)
Just don’t bother. If you don’t understand one of the hundred made up stats that someone created who probably never touched a baseball or a boob on their life, then you are dumb. That is why so many people don’t follow the game anymore like they used to. You get these arrogant talkings heads or our resident asshole going on about their advanced metrics and it almost always ends in a personal attack. You don’t understand this stat so you are stupid. This type of mentality is why baseball is not what is used to be.
To be fair and I have said this before. thewupk can use those fancy terms and stats and not be a dick about it. There are probably more people like him on here, but there is plenty that fall in the other camp.
jpx7 (06-11-2019)
the flagrant stupidity and ignorance and then saying things like "...from people who probably never touched a baseball or boob in their life" is what gets you attacked.
we get it. you don't understand numbers, math, statistics. that's not the issue. it's the ignorance and arrogance that goes along with not understanding those things.
it's great that you feel people who look at the hard data "have never touched a baseball or boob in their life." when evaluating players, most front offices use these numbers and not...RBI. so i'd prefer to judge players that way, too.
it's great you want to conserve the "old way" and not adapt. just don't be upset when the times pass you by.
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg
I was far more happy in the first month of the season when Neck was, again, overperforming. I am far less happy to realize he has settled back in to who he truly is earlier this season.
you didn't want to put a number on it...but thought 1-1.5 WAR was low, IIRC. he will settle in at right around 1 WAR. yippee.
the fact they haven't even begun platooning him tells me they won't look to upgrade there. i hope i'm wrong. but i don't see it.
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg
jpx7 (06-11-2019)