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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Passan: Sources: The Braves made a strong and serious run at Jose Quintana, with an offer that included 20-year-old SS Ozzie Albies.
    Just when I commended the FO for not trading position prospects for Q we get this tidbit.

    I take back my compliment. They are still very likely to do something incredibly stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    THIS. So much exactly this. The Johns are rushing this thing and I am convinced they are going to slam our competitive window closed in the process.

    This team and system should be positioned to dominate the East for several years starting around 2019. They're going to piss it all away to chase a longshot wildcard in 2018. Dangit.

    Pozzy brave here....I don't think a wild card is that much of a long shot next year. Folty had taken some nice steps to become a really nice pitcher. Hopefully Teheran will get over his suntrust jitters. And I consider this. Swansons sophomore slump, remember there was a lot of expectation put on him as a rookie this year.

    With colon sucking ass and Johnson sucking ass, that's the main reason we are not right there in the race right now. Colon had 8 losses and I think Johnson has 7 blown saves? Convert half of those games and we are in great shape
    Get off my lawn!

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    With us wanting to move Adams, can we afford to sit him vs lhp? If we don't play him vs lhp, that has to to hurt adams' stock right?

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    Why the hell are they considering trading position player prospects for pitchers. So stupid


    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Just when I commended the FO for not trading position prospects for Q we get this tidbit.

    I take back my compliment. They are still very likely to do something incredibly stupid.

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    From MLB Trade Rumors:

    The Braves aren’t done looking for a controllable starter after missing on Jose Quintana, per Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports (links to Twitter). Atlanta pushed hard for the southpaw, per the report, with the team dangling Ozzie Albies as a headliner — though Passan’s source makes clear that talks never reached an advanced stage. It’s interesting to hear that Albies was offered up, but that was surely a prerequisite to get in the door on Quintana. Whether the intriguing young middle infielder could also be on the block in trade concepts involving other pitchers isn’t clear, but it seems that the Braves are still looking to be aggressive in adding arms for 2018 and beyond.
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    I would offer Anderson and Pache for Gray. If they say no, that's fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    They are still very likely to do something incredibly stupid.
    The negabrave moniker was created to describe those who make statements like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    I would offer Anderson and Pache for Gray. If they say no, that's fine.
    And one of Blair, Wisler, and sims

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Just when I commended the FO for not trading position prospects for Q we get this tidbit.

    I take back my compliment. They are still very likely to do something incredibly stupid.
    Blows my friggin mind...B.L.O.W.S it. Why draft 500 million pitchers and then try to make a trade with a top position player?? I'll say this...Coppy is all or nothing. He either makes a really good trade our a a really crap trade. Heck, our pitchers are doing better and the most inconsistent one is the one he won't let go of. Dang hearing this pisses me off!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    The negabrave moniker was created to describe those who make statements like this.
    No...that's not "negabrave" that's a fact. If Coppy offered one of our few top "MLB ready" position players when we have a stack of pitchers a mile wide, it IS incredibly stupid. That's a FACT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    I would offer Anderson and Pache for Gray. If they say no, that's fine.
    Gray has been really good his last 3-4 or so starts and hes under control for 2.5 more years. If would take more than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    THIS. So much exactly this. The Johns are rushing this thing and I am convinced they are going to slam our competitive window closed in the process.

    This team and system should be positioned to dominate the East for several years starting around 2019. They're going to piss it all away to chase a longshot wildcard in 2018. Dangit.
    We could make the WC in 2018. Probably not this year unless the Rockies had a very huge collapse.

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    Trading Albies would be incredibly stupid though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Gray has been really good his last 3-4 or so starts and hes under control for 2.5 more years. If would take more than that.
    A number of analysts seem to think it will take 2 two top 100 prospects. And I think I was clear that it's okay if they say no. Throw in Wisler. That's fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Gray has been really good his last 3-4 or so starts and hes under control for 2.5 more years. If would take more than that.
    Exactly. This is a contenders market. You pay though the nose for everything you get. There are no deals...none. Just a handful of contenders bending over and taking it because they have no choice if they want to win a WS. Oh...and also the Braves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    Blows my friggin mind...B.L.O.W.S it. Why draft 500 million pitchers and then try to make a trade with a top position player?? I'll say this...Coppy is all or nothing. He either makes a really good trade our a a really crap trade. Heck, our pitchers are doing better and the most inconsistent one is the one he won't let go of. Dang hearing this pisses me off!!
    You're pissed about a trade that didn't happen based on a report from a journalist that may or may not have a source telling the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    Exactly. This is a contenders market. You pay though the nose for everything you get. There are no deals...none. Just a handful of contenders bending over and taking it because they have no choice if they want to win a WS. Oh...and also the Braves.
    The A's won't get anything close to what the Sox got for Q

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    The A's won't get anything close to what the Sox got for Q
    They probably wont get someone like Eloy but they could still get a decent haul for him assuming he's dealt.

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    [QUOTE=zbhargrove;409057]You're pissed about a trade that didn't happen based on a report from a journalist that may or may not have a source telling the truth

    I've defended Coppy plenty of times. If Ozzie was involved (you know he was because of what the White Sox were wanting)...it's as boneheaded as it gets. You can't defend stupid...and offering one of you few MLB ready positional stars (at a position you are about to have a hole)...is more than stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    They probably wont get someone like Eloy but they could still get a decent haul for him assuming he's dealt.
    Anderson and Pache is a pretty good haul

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