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    Good read on Braves farm system


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Very good read. Thanks.

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    Great read.

    You know who isn't going like this one bit

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    Lord, you guys have a really low bar for good reading.

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    The guy isn't wrong; the depth we have is absurd.

    Add in all the J2 signings from last year and depth is so good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IslandBrave View Post
    Great read.

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    And he would have a point. I guess it's all about how one views the various approaches. The White Sox have more star power, but not that much more. The one angle of the discussion in the article that I found valuable is how important it is to crosswalk each teams' prospect rankings for departing players when placing them onto their new team's list. From my vantage, I've always thought quantity over quality for minor league pitching and quality over quantity for minor league hitters. There is so much pitching burnout, that you just have to have a lot of arms in your minor league system. It all depends on when the Braves' true competitive window opens, but they will have numbers to make deals for higher-level players if guys currently in the lower minors develop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preacher View Post
    The guy isn't wrong; the depth we have is absurd.

    Add in all the J2 signings from last year and depth is so good.
    Yep. You could make an argument Bryce has been the 2nd best pitcher in the SAL and he's not even listed as a top 20 prospect in the system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Lord, you guys have a really low bar for good reading.
    I mean he isnt wrong, a guy like Wentz, Muller, TD, Wilson, Sims, Wiegel pre-injury, Touki would be top 10 in some farm systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Awesome and accurate read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preacher View Post
    The guy isn't wrong; the depth we have is absurd.

    Add in all the J2 signings from last year and depth is so good.
    White Sox do have more starpower.

    Guys like Eloy, Moncada, Kopech, Rutherford, Robert among others.

    But they dont have near the depth the Braves do throughout their system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    And he would have a point. I guess it's all about how one views the various approaches. The White Sox have more star power, but not that much more. The one angle of the discussion in the article that I found valuable is how important it is to crosswalk each teams' prospect rankings for departing players when placing them onto their new team's list. From my vantage, I've always thought quantity over quality for minor league pitching and quality over quantity for minor league hitters. There is so much pitching burnout, that you just have to have a lot of arms in your minor league system. It all depends on when the Braves' true competitive window opens, but they will have numbers to make deals for higher-level players if guys currently in the lower minors develop.
    The other thing to consider in evaluating the rebuild is that our top two prospects were already in the system when the franchise decided to go with a rebuild. That gave us a yuge head start. I'm not aware that the White Sox farm system had anyone near the value of Albies and Acuna when they started their rebuild.
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    The thing that gets touched on occasionally but not consistently is how much room our system has to grow given the average age of our top prospects. I think if you just look at this year, the White Sox come out ahead, but in a year or two we could be looking at some of the prospects in our system and wondering how we possibly had anybody over them.

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    Accurate read is a good word. We all talk about depth, but ours is incredible and could be huge moving forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    I mean he isnt wrong, a guy like Wentz, Muller, TD, Wilson, Sims, Wiegel pre-injury, Touki would be top 10 in some farm systems.
    I don't disagree at all. The Braves have awesome depth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    The thing that gets touched on occasionally but not consistently is how much room our system has to grow given the average age of our top prospects. I think if you just look at this year, the White Sox come out ahead, but in a year or two we could be looking at some of the prospects in our system and wondering how we possibly had anybody over them.
    I think teams often make the mistake of valuing prospects closer to the majors too high relative to those further away. Both in the draft and in trades. Some adjustment for those closer should be made, but I think a lot of teams make too big an adjustment and pass on younger players with bigger upside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I think teams often make the mistake of valuing prospects closer to the majors too high relative to those further away. Both in the draft and in trades. Some adjustment for those closer should be made, but I think a lot of teams make too big an adjustment and pass on younger players with bigger upside.
    Good point. I think most front offices' want to compress the time frame. It's just so hard to figure out if guys' tools are going to translate as they move up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    The thing that gets touched on occasionally but not consistently is how much room our system has to grow given the average age of our top prospects. I think if you just look at this year, the White Sox come out ahead, but in a year or two we could be looking at some of the prospects in our system and wondering how we possibly had anybody over them.
    Yup, this.

    Of course, several are now pretty close despite being really young, so I'm not sure how long they'll impact rankings and how much they'll be able to move up before graduating, but the ages of our top guys for an elite farm system is pretty bonkers.

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    We'll likely lose Acuna, Albies, Newk off the top 100, but guys like Wentz, Touki, Wilson among others could make it in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    The other thing to consider in evaluating the rebuild is that our top two prospects were already in the system when the franchise decided to go with a rebuild. That gave us a yuge head start. I'm not aware that the White Sox farm system had anyone near the value of Albies and Acuna when they started their rebuild.
    Nobody - including most here - knew Acuna's name when our rebuild started, so that's not entirely accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Nobody - including most here - knew Acuna's name when our rebuild started, so that's not entirely accurate.
    And the structure that produced Acuna/Albies was created by JS/Cox.

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