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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    The reason it's so hard to find a comp for Kemp is because few teams are stupid enough to leave such a poor defender in the OF very long. Trumbo is a very good comparison, and he sees very little time in the OF anymore.
    I like the fact you are tripling down on this one. That's strong.

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    0.6 bWAR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    That's not a very a good comp for his offense though.
    Dunn had a run from 04 to 2010 offensively that I think Kemp will end the year at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    0.6 bWAR
    Down from 0.7, as predicted. The slide will continue as his BABIP normalizes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Down from 0.7, as predicted. The slide will continue as his BABIP normalizes.
    And up from 0.5 last week

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    Update: Braves have 113 games left. Assuming Kemp plays in 105 of those and maintains his current level of defense he would need to end the season with an ~850 OPS to surpass 1 bWAR. Kemp currently has a 952 OPS and would need to OPS roughly 815 the rest of the way to end the year at 850.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Update: Braves have 113 games left. Assuming Kemp plays in 105 of those and maintains his current level of defense he would need to end the season with an ~850 OPS to surpass 1 bWAR. Kemp currently has a 952 OPS and would need to OPS roughly 815 the rest of the way to end the year at 850.
    Looks like it will come down to the wire. OPS of .815 for the rest of the year is very doable.

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    Sweet, we are hoping the 2nd highest paid player on the team gets to 1 WAR...and proves to be below average.

    I'm soooooo glad The Genius doubled down on the HO mistake to pay Kemp even more money!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Sweet, we are hoping the 2nd highest paid player on the team gets to 1 WAR...and proves to be below average.

    I'm soooooo glad The Genius doubled down on the HO mistake to pay Kemp even more money!!
    Nah, I'm hoping he gets it just so you have to admit you were wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Sweet, we are hoping the 2nd highest paid player on the team gets to 1 WAR...and proves to be below average.

    I'm soooooo glad The Genius doubled down on the HO mistake to pay Kemp even more money!!
    You trying to deflect now?

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    I'm still not convinced his play in the OF costs the Braves as many runs as the numbers indicate. Remember that even just playing LF takes points away from your WAR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    You trying to deflect now?
    Huh? It will be very close to 1 WAR at the end of the year. It wouldn't have been much of a bet if it wasn't close.

    The thing I find funny is all the posi-Braves trying to pretend Kemp is good, and here we are...cheering for him to reach 1 WAR. It's beyond sad that this is what Braves fans have to cheer for because The Genius doesn't know how to evaluate MLB talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerfherders View Post
    I'm still not convinced his play in the OF costs the Braves as many runs as the numbers indicate. Remember that even just playing LF takes points away from your WAR.
    Every time we have to discuss this?

    If you aren't convinced, go research it and learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Huh? It will be very close to 1 WAR at the end of the year. It wouldn't have been much of a bet if it wasn't close.

    The thing I find funny is all the posi-Braves trying to pretend Kemp is good, and here we are...cheering for him to reach 1 WAR. It's beyond sad that this is what Braves fans have to cheer for because The Genius doesn't know how to evaluate MLB talent.
    You're not very good at this, huh? You know exactly why we're cheering for this, and it has nothing to do with his value to the Braves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerfherders View Post
    I'm still not convinced his play in the OF costs the Braves as many runs as the numbers indicate. Remember that even just playing LF takes points away from your WAR.
    I think most people are aware of this. This is how we can compare a shortstop to a LF. If you are just concerned with his WAR rankings for LF then that doesn't matter as all LF's get that same penalty.


    As far as how many runs he is worse than an average fielder. What would you put that number at so far?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    You're not very good at this, huh? You know exactly why we're cheering for this, and it has nothing to do with his value to the Braves.
    What exactly am I cheering for? I want the Braves to suck? I want to tune in every day after work and see them down 6-0 in the 2nd inning every night?

    The Braves suck, in part because Kemp sucks. Proving the derptards on this site wrong is just a very small silver lining to being a a fan of a miserable team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    What exactly am I cheering for? I want the Braves to suck? I want to tune in every day after work and see them down 6-0 in the 2nd inning every night?

    The Braves suck, in part because Kemp sucks. Proving the derptards on this site wrong is just a very small silver lining to being a a fan of a miserable team.
    I have no idea what you cheer for. I would be surprised if you cheer at all.

    And we're cheering for him to get 1 bWAR because it would prove you wrong. I guess that would also make you a derptard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    What exactly am I cheering for? I want the Braves to suck? I want to tune in every day after work and see them down 6-0 in the 2nd inning every night?

    The Braves suck, in part because Kemp sucks. Proving the derptards on this site wrong is just a very small silver lining to being a a fan of a miserable team.
    ^^^^This is the angry rant by a know-it-all that's in the process of being proven wrong by a southern bigot, derptard, posi-brave^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    What exactly am I cheering for? I want the Braves to suck? I want to tune in every day after work and see them down 6-0 in the 2nd inning every night?

    The Braves suck, in part because Kemp sucks. Proving the derptards on this site wrong is just a very small silver lining to being a a fan of a miserable team.
    I'm pretty sure if we are down 6-0 in the second...that is crappy starting pitching. Now...you "can" blame Coppy for that for sure. Not seeing how it's Kemp's fault. He although might be the reason it's 6-1 instead of 6-0. I seen him make more good plays than bad this year, and he looks a good bit better than last year.

    Our starting pitching has been our problem more than anything.

    Infield defense has been a problem more than outfield actually.

    Offense has been fine.

    BP has righted the ship for the most part.

    So...unless Kemp is a starting pitcher...he is not the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirkPiggler View Post
    Looks like it will come down to the wire. OPS of .815 for the rest of the year is very doable.
    He should be able to do that. I see him ending with around a 1.5 WAR or so.

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