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    MINORS THREAD 6/19 ... Not-much Monday

    MONDAY SCOREBOARD

    CLASS AAA


    Charlotte 10, Gwinnett 5

    SP: Medlen 5.1 IP, 9 H, 5 R, 1 BB, 9 K
    Brothers 0.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K
    LP: Albers (6-2) 1 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K
    Peterson 1 IP, 4 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 0 K
    Cabrera 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K

    Albies 2-5, 2B, R, SB
    Gaylor 3-4, R, SB

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    CLASS AA

    Mississippi, idle

    ADVANCED CLASS A

    Tampa 4, Florida 2

    LP: Toussaint (1-8) 5 IP, 7 H, 3 ER, 5 BB, 5 K
    Winkler 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 0 K
    Minter 1 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 2 K, HR
    Clouse 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K

    Castro 2-4, 2B, RBI
    Seymour 2-5, 2 R, SB
    Jackson 0-3, BB (he's finally back!) C
    Lago 2-4, 2B

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    CLASS A

    Rome, idle

    SHORT-SEASON

    DSL Marlins 13, DSL Braves 8

    SP: Hernandez 2.1 IP, 4 H, 3 ER, 4 BB, 2 K
    D. Julian 2.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 K
    Caminero (BS, 2) 1.2 IP, 5 H, 5 ER, 1 BB, 2 K

    Negert 1-2, R, 2 BB, SB
    Lora 2-4, HR (1st), 4 RBI
    Y. Severino 1-3, 2 R, RBI, 2 BB

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    Baseball Prospectus write up on Wentz is really encouraging:

    Joey Wentz, LHP, Atlanta Braves (Low-A Rome)
    Velocity concerns have followed Wentz since his pre-draft days that included a dead arm, but if his fastball continues to pop like it did during a recent outing for Rome, sitting low-90s instead of mid-90s won’t be an issue. He was 88-93, touched 94, and consistently sat 90-92. There was the occasional dip to 88-89 as he labored but, again, the liveliness is the thing to pay attention to here.

    Wentz’s fastball only features slight arm-side run and the overall movement is minimal, but it’s effective based on extreme plane from a high slot and 6-foot-5 frame. It jumps from the hand and rides hard to both sides of the plate. He can also work up effectively with the pitch, although his command wavered at times and he left it up and arm-side too often. Wentz’s curveball was 77-81 with tight, two-plane break when he spun it well. The break came late and featured above-average depth. It typically came in at 1/5 and was consistently hard and downward with above-average feel. His changeup didn’t match the first two pitches by lacking feel. It was constantly firm out of the hand. He threw one usable, average change with some fade.

    Wentz is the model left-handed pitcher with size, length and strength. His frame and delivery mimic Cole Hamels’ in a clear-cut way. There’s the occasional flying open and arm drag that cause him to miss fastballs up and away to right-handed batters, but the delivery is repeatable and it’s a matter of getting his long limbs in sync. The potential outcome is a no. 2 starter with an above-average to plus fastball, plus breaking ball and enough of a changeup to keep batters honest. Scouts have seen a better version of Wentz’s changeup than I did, so it appears to be the usual growing pains and working to gain a more consistent feel for his stuff. He could realistically slide into a mid-rotation role.

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    Pretty encouraging article indeed

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    Revisiting Acuna/Eloy/Robles discussion now that Acuna has cooled off considerably.

    Acuna (19y6m, AA): .313/.366/.463 (.829 OPS), and still rocking an unsustainable .400 BABIP
    Eloy (20y6m, A+): .280/.385/.527 (.912 OPS), very sustainable .290 BABIP
    Robles (20y1m, A+): .290/.388/.497 (.886 OPS), maybe sustainable .340 BABIP

    Acuna still has quite a ways to normalize that BABIP, and his OPS will be close to sub-800 by the time his BABIP gets down to the .350 range. Especially if he doesn't get those K and BB rates back to where they usually are for him.

    I would expect Eloy and Robles to be promoted soon, so we will see how those guys do when they reach the same level as Acuna.

    It's hard to rank these guys now, but I think Longenhagen was right to pump the brakes a bit on Acuna overtaking those guys.

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    Overtaking them? Sure. But in the same discussion? Not at all. Still the youngest, still at the higher level.

    Everyone knew his numbers were going to come down. No one was looking at him and thinking, 'Man, if he can hit .450 in AA, wow!'

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    Baseball Prospectus write up on Wentz is really encouraging:

    Joey Wentz, LHP, Atlanta Braves (Low-A Rome)
    Velocity concerns have followed Wentz since his pre-draft days that included a dead arm, but if his fastball continues to pop like it did during a recent outing for Rome, sitting low-90s instead of mid-90s won’t be an issue. He was 88-93, touched 94, and consistently sat 90-92. There was the occasional dip to 88-89 as he labored but, again, the liveliness is the thing to pay attention to here.

    Wentz’s fastball only features slight arm-side run and the overall movement is minimal, but it’s effective based on extreme plane from a high slot and 6-foot-5 frame. It jumps from the hand and rides hard to both sides of the plate. He can also work up effectively with the pitch, although his command wavered at times and he left it up and arm-side too often. Wentz’s curveball was 77-81 with tight, two-plane break when he spun it well. The break came late and featured above-average depth. It typically came in at 1/5 and was consistently hard and downward with above-average feel. His changeup didn’t match the first two pitches by lacking feel. It was constantly firm out of the hand. He threw one usable, average change with some fade.

    Wentz is the model left-handed pitcher with size, length and strength. His frame and delivery mimic Cole Hamels’ in a clear-cut way. There’s the occasional flying open and arm drag that cause him to miss fastballs up and away to right-handed batters, but the delivery is repeatable and it’s a matter of getting his long limbs in sync. The potential outcome is a no. 2 starter with an above-average to plus fastball, plus breaking ball and enough of a changeup to keep batters honest. Scouts have seen a better version of Wentz’s changeup than I did, so it appears to be the usual growing pains and working to gain a more consistent feel for his stuff. He could realistically slide into a mid-rotation role.
    Not bragging....well sort of i am. I gave this same write up almost. I think I was plagiarized. Ha. In reality, this write up is very encouraging. I know I thought Wentz was really good when I saw him.
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    Wentz is, of course, still very young. His velo isn't set at where it is now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    Wentz is, of course, still very young. His velo isn't set at where it is now.
    Just look at Newcomb. Went from 94-96 to 98-102 at age 23.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Just look at Newcomb. Went from 94-96 to 98-102 at age 23.
    Those cold weather pitchers are always late bloomers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Just look at Newcomb. Went from 94-96 to 98-102 at age 23.
    Hell, Sam Freeman went up to 103 at the age of 29.

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    Alex Jackson will be playing tonight!!!
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    Just as interesting, Tanner Murphy to Danville and Jonathan Morales to Mississippi. Not sure why the Morales move since he hasn't been great, but that move does open it up for the Braves to bump Cumberland to High A if they want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    Just as interesting, Tanner Murphy to Danville and Jonathan Morales to Mississippi. Not sure why the Morales move since he hasn't been great, but that move does open it up for the Braves to bump Cumberland to High A if they want to.
    Seen Murphy enough personally. Never really cared for him...as a player that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deester11 View Post
    Seen Murphy enough personally. Never really cared for him...as a player that is.
    Yeah it seems pretty clear at this point that he isn't a prospect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    Yeah it seems pretty clear at this point that he isn't a prospect.
    His name should be Tanner "No Relation to Dale" Murphy

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    rico, you got anything on Juan Carlos Negret, the 18-year-old Cuban who is playing for our DSL team? He's been the best player statistically on that team to this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    rico, you got anything on Juan Carlos Negret, the 18-year-old Cuban who is playing for our DSL team? He's been the best player statistically on that team to this point.
    Was just looking at his stats today. He's off to an impressive start, especially for a J2 guy we didn't know really anything about. Up to 11 BBs in 13 games so far.

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    Brett Cumberland is in the SAL Home Run Derby and the guy throwing to him is the worst I've ever seen.

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    Three scoreless for Medlen in Gwinnett, only allowed three hits to go with six Ks and zero walks.

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    Medlen is next in line after Garcia is traded

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