The attendance is Fredi's fault too? Fascinating.
keithlaw (05-02-2015)
And I don't think Fredi should be fired because his replacement would be that much better, I think he should be fired because his teams have had 2 epic collapses in 4 seasons. Last year's performance down the stretch was inexcusable. If I was running an office at a real job and my team performed that badly, I would be on the street the next morning. Fredi may deserve another opportunity somewhere else, but he doesn't deserve to be managing the Braves anymore.
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LOL. Your arguments have no merits.
Joe Torree had Mo Rivera, Bobby had a turntable for the closer. Again, if we had Mo in the mid 90s things look a lot differently.
But oh Joe Torre, the tachtical genius! He was basically Bobby, except he had Mo, a larger payroll, and a lot more luck. Outside of NY, what exactly did Torre accomplish?
Any by your logic managers are never to blame, only players. Well, it's too bad in Bobby's case he didn't have an ace reliever, and when he went to ours instead of closing our ring #2, gave up the biggest blow in Braves history. And it's too bad that Chipper didn't hit like Jeter in every big moment. And it's to bad that Jeffrey Maier didn't attend Braves game. The Braves had some of the craziest bad luck during that time frame that I have ever seen while everything seemingly went the Yanks way. Torre the magical wizard!
Leland only got past Bobby once in the postseason. And when he did he had a hot Kevin Brown and a Livan Hernsndez strike zone that doesn't even fit in this universe.
And the genius LaRussa only beat Bobby once in the postseason and I don't think he had any influence, as our vaunted starting pitchers couldn't get past the 3rd inning. But that was Bobby's fault, right?
clvclv (05-03-2015)
My guess is that most folks who would say this weren't around for the 80's, and have only looked up records from that period (at most).
Being a Braves fan during the 70's and 80's was much like being a Cubs fan before they hired Theo and Jed. There was absolutely NOTHING to look forward to, but you still watched, showed up, and hoped nevertheless. Our Little League trips to Fulton County Stadium were almost as exciting as Christmas - except we never got any presents.
Last edited by clvclv; 05-03-2015 at 08:50 AM.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
I find it amazing that after 8 pages of folks defending Fredi's job... nobody has been able to name one thing he does well
Pretty much. I had hope that since he was hyped as Cox's protege that he would be similar in that while he's not the best in game manager that he would atleast share similar traits in the way he backed his players and handled the clubhouse. But those two things are as far away from Bobby as they can be. He simply doesn't do anything well. He's just there.