Payroll

[Tapate50]

McGuirk says payroll will take major jump in 2017.


http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/n...irk-talks.html

That certainly makes me feel better, because the things I was seeing were telling me we weren't able to compete until that new stadium was just pumping new revenue from rentals and leases into the Braves.

[Hawk]

My guess is that the stadium costs aren't as initially planned. Ownership needs to fork over more money for the new building. With all this supposed budget available I can see the Braves being well under 100 million in salary and closer to 80.

I've actually been wondering the same thing recently.

[MadduxFanII]

I've actually been wondering the same thing recently.

The art deco sculptures of idealized dudes holding heavy things are running over-budget?

[DaneHill]

McGuirk says payroll will take major jump in 2017.

TM: I won’t give you a timetable, but you will start seeing major jumps 1/1/17.

That's a very specific answer. Tax purposes I assume? Or is it just meant to convey that he means jumps for the 2017 season? If literal, then we're going to miss out on whatever few good free agents will be immediately available next Fall.

[bravesfanforlife88]

That's a very specific answer. Tax purposes I assume? Or is it just meant to convey that he means jumps for the 2017 season? If literal, then we're going to miss out on whatever few good free agents will be immediately available next Fall.

based on the date provided, I would assume that would be in reference with the 2017 budget....so any free agent you sign after the 2016 season would go to the 2017 budget.

[weso1]

http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/atlanta-braves/payroll/

Has a pretty good break down of our current payroll after the trade. We sit somewhere in the neighborhood of $82mil committed to 2016

My question is do we continue to tear down? I think you have to at this point. Teheran will not still be around when the braves are finally in contention and freeman will be expensive.

Teheran makes close to $3.5 mil next year. Freeman makes close to $12.5 mil.....if you take both of them off the books you free up close to $16m THIS year

Next year that saves you about $6.5 mil on teheran and $20.5 mil on Freeman. Yes his salary jumps. So now you have freed up almost $27 mil in addition to what you already have for 2017.

McGuirk is Mr Chatty Cathy.

[DirkPiggler]

Of course payroll is going up drastically in 2017.

After trading Freeman, Teheran, and pretty much anyone else making high seven or eight figures, we'll get our payroll in the $40 to $60 million range. Then when McGuirk raises payroll to $80 million he can tell us all he doubled the payroll.

I flat out don't trust that guy. Hope like hell I'm wrong.

[chop2chip]

That's a very specific answer. Tax purposes I assume? Or is it just meant to convey that he means jumps for the 2017 season? If literal, then we're going to miss out on whatever few good free agents will be immediately available next Fall.

Liberty Media has a 31 December tax year end. Since we are expecting the new stadium revenues to feed into the 2017 fiscal financials, then it makes sense to keep salaries consistent with that - for tax purposes, like you said.

For purposes of signing free agents, that shouldn't matter. The only thing it could affect is signing bonuses, but that certainly could be paid on 1/1/2017 without issue.

[chop2chip]

Of course payroll is going up drastically in 2017.

After trading Freeman, Teheran, and pretty much anyone else making high seven or eight figures, we'll get our payroll in the $40 to $60 million range. Then when McGuirk raises payroll to $80 million he can tell us all he doubled the payroll.

I flat out don't trust that guy. Hope like hell I'm wrong.

He also stated in that same article he envisions the Braves having a top 10 payroll. Take all executive speak with a grain of salt, but he's definitely stating the objective clearly.

[clvclv]

McGuirk is Mr Chatty Cathy.

Kinda prefer it when he's not personally. Makes it tougher for the front office to function as well as it can when agents and other front offices are able to exploit that statement, ya know???

[Millwood1Hitter]

He also stated in that same article he envisions the Braves having a top 10 payroll. Take all executive speak with a grain of salt, but he's definitely stating the objective clearly.

Yep this is pretty telling. We've heard him say we're going to see payroll increase a few other times only to see a modest increase of 3-5 million here or there over the years.

To me there are a lot of positives to read out of this article. Pretty much summarizes what I've said all along, the front office and everyone has a plan and is on the same page....whether or not they execute it to near perfection and pull it off is a whole another story but only time will tell.

[NYCBrave]

He also stated in that same article he envisions the Braves having a top 10 payroll. Take all executive speak with a grain of salt, but he's definitely stating the objective clearly.

If we expect a top 10 payroll, and for it to jump on 1/1/17, it makes even less sense why we'd trade Simmons.

[Chico]

If we expect a top 10 payroll, and for it to jump on 1/1/17, it makes even less sense why we'd trade Simmons.

Cause only the top payrolls in baseball can afford a 10M a year 8th place hitter.

[chop2chip]

If we expect a top 10 payroll, and for it to jump on 1/1/17, it makes even less sense why we'd trade Simmons.

Agreed.

Simmons trade makes sense if you are looking to compete in 2019, not 2017.

[thewupk]

Cause only the top payrolls in baseball can afford a 10M a year 8th place hitter.

Yeah they would rather pay 11 million to a sub 2 WAR player for the next 3 years.

[bravesfanMatt]

Yeah they would rather pay 11 million to a sub 2 WAR player for the next 3 years.

yes, not happy about Nick.. but we also can't get two top pitching prospects and a another ~2.5 war player in return for Nick at Night..

[thewupk]

yes, not happy about Nick.. but we also can't get two top pitching prospects and a another ~2.5 war player in return for Nick at Night..

That's true. I'm opearting under the belief that Simmons was traded for his value and not that he wasn't worth his contract.

[bravesfanMatt]

That's true. I'm opearting under the belief that Simmons was traded for his value and not that he wasn't worth his contract.

if anyone thinks we traded Simmons for a salary dump then they are delusional.

[thewupk]

if anyone thinks we traded Simmons for a salary dump then they are delusional.

There are those people around

[nsacpi]

There are those people around

they are otherwise known as Trump voters