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[The Chosen One]

they are otherwise known as Trump voters

Well well. 3 years in an nsacpi gets political.

[The Chosen One]

Hopefully by 1/1/17 the good free agents next year won't be signed by then (Winter Meetings).

[Chico]

if anyone thinks we traded Simmons for a salary dump then they are delusional.

Whenever a good player is traded "Fire Sale" seems to be the first response.

[nsacpi]

Well well. 3 years in an nsacpi gets political.

You are after all the author of "The Art of the Deal" (the best book ever written as we have been told). So there is a baseball angle there.

[goldfly]

Yeah they would rather pay 11 million to a sub 2 WAR player for the next 3 years.

wish i could like this post more

[bravesfanforlife88]

http://www.baseball-reference.com/te...salaries.shtml

according to baseball-reference, we were right around $102m including projected arb raises/guaranteed contracts before this maybin deal. I saw somewhere that this deal saves us about $6mil in salary. so we would be roughly $96mil including arb money and guaranteed contracts.

Based on that information, where is everyone getting the information saying we have $25m to $30m to spend?

[Enscheff]

http://www.baseball-reference.com/te...salaries.shtml

according to baseball-reference, we were right around $102m including projected arb raises/guaranteed contracts before this maybin deal. I saw somewhere that this deal saves us about $6mil in salary. so we would be roughly $96mil including arb money and guaranteed contracts.

Based on that information, where is everyone getting the information saying we have $25m to $30m to spend?

Because that website's numbers don't add up. Here is the actual roster:

AJP $3.0
Freeman $12.0
Peterson $0.5
Garcia $0.5
Aybar $6.0
Markakis $11.0
Bourn $14.0
Olivera $4.0

Swisher $15.0
CB $0.5
Toscano $1.0
Castro $0.5
Bench5 $0.0

Miller $4.9
Teheran $3.3
Wisler $0.5
SP4 $0.0
SP5 $0.0

Grilli $3.5
Viz $1.1
Shae $0.5
Krol $0.5
BP5 $0.0
BP6 $0.0
BP7 $0.0

total $82.3


Take away the $10M the Indians sent over for Bourn and Swisher, add in the few million the Braves gave the Tigers for Maybin, and the payroll is right around $75M, which jives pretty well with the ~$30M figure being tossed around. The current holes are one bench slot, 2 SPs, and a few BP guys.

I would expect about $10M-$12M to go towards a real starter for 3B or LF (think Freese or Parra), $10-$12M to go towards a MOR pitcher (think Lackey or Estrada), and $5M-$10M to go towards the BP (think Grilli and JJ v2.0). Pretty much the plan all along.

[EstebanBugatti]

http://www.baseball-reference.com/te...salaries.shtml

according to baseball-reference, we were right around $102m including projected arb raises/guaranteed contracts before this maybin deal. I saw somewhere that this deal saves us about $6mil in salary. so we would be roughly $96mil including arb money and guaranteed contracts.

Based on that information, where is everyone getting the information saying we have $25m to $30m to spend?

There is no way the Braves have $96 Million already ties up. Swisher and Bourn are both being paid for by Cleveland.

[clvclv]

Got us at ~$88,540,000 including Toscano and the $1,500,000 we're sending the Tigers to help pay Cam (and no Minor in that figure). Could be $10 million lower if they're applying the money sent by Cleveland to this year's budget - haven't seen anyone confirm whether they applied any of it to last season's budget.

[The Chosen One]

Might be the worst 90 million dollar team ever constructed.

[Hudson2]

Agree Jeffrey. That team cost 90 million? Wow. Worst 90 million ever spent.

[bravesfanforlife88]

Agree Jeffrey. That team cost 90 million? Wow. Worst 90 million ever spent.

But at least the braves are profitable....not that it does anything for us but the heads of the organization are getting $$$$

[sturg33]

Might be the worst 90 million dollar team ever constructed.

haha I said the same thing in the other thread... I would have guessed we were in the 60s

[Tapate50]

haha I said the same thing in the other thread... I would have guessed we were in the 40s

My thoughts

I mean I know it was going to be bad, especially offensively. So I am really trying not to be the guy that's shocked, but we really do need offense in the minors.

[EstebanBugatti]

Might be the worst 90 million dollar team ever constructed.

Forget the $90 Million part. This is the worst team ever constructed period.

[Metaphysicist]

I think using the word "constructed" is overselling the effort that went into this team.

[weso1]

http://www.baseball-reference.com/te...salaries.shtml

according to baseball-reference, we were right around $102m including projected arb raises/guaranteed contracts before this maybin deal. I saw somewhere that this deal saves us about $6mil in salary. so we would be roughly $96mil including arb money and guaranteed contracts.

Based on that information, where is everyone getting the information saying we have $25m to $30m to spend?

Looks like bref isn't accounting for cash considerations sent to us by Dodgers and Indians. So take off 15 mil or so from that 96 million. We've probably got 20 million or so available for this season. Actually looks like Dodgers cash is there, but not Indians

[nsacpi]

Constructing a "bad" team with a 100M budget can be a good strategy. The idea would be to use the 100M to take on bad contracts accompanied by more useful assets. We did that with the Toussaint deal and to some extent with the Bourn/Swisher deal. Some of the details of recent deals have not been consistent with this theme. For example getting some money back in the Simmons deal. Why not accept paying Aybar's higher salary and getting more valuable prospects in return.

[The Chosen One]

Constructing a "bad" team with a 100M budget can be a good strategy. The idea would be to use the 100M to take on bad contracts accompanied by more useful assets. We did that with the Toussaint deal and to some extent with the Bourn/Swisher deal. Some of the details of recent deals have not been consistent with this theme. For example getting some money back in the Simmons deal. Why not accept paying Aybar's higher salary and getting more valuable prospects in return.

I understand that. I just remember when JS was barely able to construct our team at $85 million when AOL cut payroll. Now we're at around 90 million with a team that might make 3rd place in the division if lucky. Just goes to show how far the stinky economics of baseball have come.

[DirkPiggler]

I think using the word "constructed" is overselling the effort that went into this team.

More like "destructed."