The Uggla Solution

[Dalyn]

I tried to find somebody who didn't put the ball in play that much.

Barry Bonds in 2004 had a BB percentage of 37.6 and a K percentage of 6.6 resulting in 44.2 percent of his at bats where he didn't put the ball in play.

So there ya go. I just compared Dan Uggla to Barry Bonds. Good day.

I am sure that is not the only similarities one could find.

[Gary82]

I am sure that is not the only similarities one could find.

They're both black?

[Dalyn]

They're both black?

Impossible. Fredi likes Uggla.

[Gary82]

How does Bill Shanks feel about Uggla?

[Dalyn]

How does Bill Shanks feel about Uggla?

He recently said that Uggla should be considered as one possibility to take over as team leader (when Hudson hurt himself).

[yeezus]

How does Bill Shanks feel about Uggla?

That depends, did we decide if he was black or white yet?

[Dalyn]

That depends, did we decide if he was black or white yet?

I think this is part of the decision process.

[yeezus]

I think this is part of the decision process.

So this the classic "what came first, owl or the egg" game.

[Dalyn]

So this the classic "what came first, owl or the egg" game.

Pretty much.

[zitothebrave]

That depends, did we decide if he was black or white yet?

You tell me

[yeezus]

is he on the left or right?

[Dalyn]

Fredi talking about Uggla (link).


Yep. He compares Uggla to Utely (and makes it sound like they are basically the same hitter, outside of average). You know, the (0.9 WAR) 85 OPS+ to the (3.4 WAR) 122 OPS+. What is with his Uggla fascination?

[thethe]

I understand backing a player while he struggles. That is the Bobby way and all but you can go overboard a bit. This is just absurd now.

[zitothebrave]

I understand backing a player while he struggles. That is the Bobby way and all but you can go overboard a bit. This is just absurd now.

Who's a realistic option who's better than Uggla? That's the problem when we're dealing with Uggla and Bossman, our backups are bums. If Justin, Freddie, or Mac were to struggle we have a bunch of guys who can step in. But for Bossman and Uggla we have Janish, Elliot Johnson, and Schafer, who have career wOBA of .261 .260 and .285 respectively. They all suck. So our choice is to play someone who's playing slightly better now (though not much) and have no upside or play the much more talented guys with a much better track record and hope they get things turned around. I vote for the latter.

[PawPawMaxwell]

We all know that Liberty is totally unconcerned about the Braves so the question is: Do you think they or anyone else would be upset if Uggla was simply released or DFA?

[nsacpi]

We have the components for a productive platoon combination at second:

La Stella in AA had an OPS of .946 against righties and .754 against lefties.

Pastornicky in AAA was more neutral with an OPS of .743 against righties and .758 against lefties

[Gary82]

We all know that Liberty is totally unconcerned about the Braves so the question is: Do you think they or anyone else would be upset if Uggla was simply released or DFA?

Every day that passes by, the more probable this action becomes. I don't think they'll DFA him during the season. I expect changes this offseason, though.

[nsacpi]

Every day that passes by, the more probable this action becomes. I don't think they'll DFA him during the season. I expect changes this offseason, though.

At some point next year, the front office might conclude that Fredi is not capable managing the situation right and it is be better to just take care of the matter.

[50PoundHead]

At some point next year, the front office might conclude that Fredi is not capable managing the situation right and it is be better to just take care of the matter.

Do you think Wren is any less unrealistic about Uggla than Fredi? Wren finally bit the bullet on Lowe and Kawakami, so he's not immune to admitting an error and moving on. I guess I'll have to see it to believe it with Uggla.

[Strike3urout]

Fredi talking about Uggla (link).


Yep. He compares Uggla to Utely (and makes it sound like they are basically the same hitter, outside of average). You know, the (0.9 WAR) 85 OPS+ to the (3.4 WAR) 122 OPS+. What is with his Uggla fascination?

Funny how Fredi feels the need to justify himself for playing Dan:

"I wrote down both lines and asked my coaches, 'Who's the other guy?' I even said it was another second baseman in the [National League] East.

"They finally got it."