We lost Zach Bird (RP) in the rule 5.
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So pipeline can finally take him off our 30 man prospect list...So, who will they replace him with? These are my guesses. They're out of date anyways, but I still look over there.
Dylan Moore
Drew Harrington
Abraham Gutierrez
Caleb Dirks
Matt Withrow
Juan Yepez
Kade Sivicque
Not that I'm the least bit optimistic about this now, given the hauls the White Sox have gotten in their other trades at this Winter Meetings, but realistically what would we likely have to give up to get Quintana OR the 3b guy, Frazier. Either or both I guess. I look forward to you guys' expert opinions on this. :)
Quintana is going to take a big package. Not quite what Sale got but in the same ballpark. Multiple top prospects. Frazier has 1 year before FA and will be getting arbitration. So it sort of depends on what that number comes out to be but someone like at the back end of the top 100 or someone on the outside looking in.
50PoundHead (12-08-2016)
I won't claim to be an expert, but I'll give my opinion. :)
Looking at their prospects I think they'd be looking for left handed pitching and infielders. They'd want a deal based around Albies and Newcomb. The only way it would work out for us if if they'd be willing to go with quantity over quality, but they really don't need to trade Quinatana
So IF we were to include Albies, Newcomb, and 2 or 3 other good quality (but not the very best) prospects could we reasonably expect to acquire both Quintana and Frazier, if we wanted both that is?
Then comes the question should we give up a lot for one/both of these players?
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"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
Best estimates I have seen suggest Quintana should have ~80% of Sale's trade value. The prospects Sale was traded for were "worth" approximately $120M+ in surplus value, so 80% of that is approximately $100M.
Frazier is probably projected for 2.5-3 WAR next year, and is also projected to earn $13.5M in arbitration next year. That gives him a surplus value of $20M-$24M.
Albies is probably worth $65M, Newcomb is probably worth $20M-$25M, Allard, Anderson, and Soroka about $15M+ each, and other guys hanging around the back of the top 100 like Fried, Touki and Wentz are probably worth ~$10M each.
So add those things up and mix and match as you see fit. Hart/Coppy just said they won't be trying to acquire Quintana, so that answers your question about whether or not the Braves "should" trade for either of those players.
Last edited by Enscheff; 12-08-2016 at 01:08 PM.