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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Touki is slowly arching the prospect improvement curve. It is just hard to notice.

    IP. Era. BB/9. K/9. Whip.
    2014. 28.2. 8.48. 5.7. 10. 1.95
    2015. 87.2. 4.83. 4.9. 6.9. 1.357
    2016. 132.1. 3.88. 4.8 8.7. 1.333
    2017. 145. 4.53. 4. 10.4. 1.345
    2018. 74. 3.41. 3.8. 11.2. 1.216

    So he has improved his K rate while steadily dropping his walks. His era and whip are finally catching up. Why would anyone want to give up on a 21 year old prospect who is literally getting better every year.
    people are very impatient with young players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Touki is slowly arching the prospect improvement curve. It is just hard to notice.

    IP. Era. BB/9. K/9. Whip.
    2014. 28.2. 8.48. 5.7. 10. 1.95
    2015. 87.2. 4.83. 4.9. 6.9. 1.357
    2016. 132.1. 3.88. 4.8 8.7. 1.333
    2017. 145. 4.53. 4. 10.4. 1.345
    2018. 74. 3.41. 3.8. 11.2. 1.216

    So he has improved his K rate while steadily dropping his walks. His era and whip are finally catching up. Why would anyone want to give up on a 21 year old prospect who is literally getting better every year.
    For me, personally, I keep mentally lumping him in with the Blair/Wisler/Folty/Newk/Gant/Fried/Sanchez/ManBan group of pitchers (which has mostly been a complete flop) because he was acquired around the same time.

    I have to constantly remind myself just how young he is. While it's too soon to say he definitely sticks as a SP, the steady improvements to his BB rate are certainly encouraging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    people are very impatient with young players.
    We have been spoiled by Albies/Acuna. Most young guys progress a little slower than they did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfree80 View Post
    We have been spoiled by Albies/Acuna. Most young guys progress a little slower than they did.
    Soroka too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    For me, personally, I keep mentally lumping him in with the Blair/Wisler/Folty/Newk/Gant/Fried/Sanchez/ManBan group of pitchers (which has mostly been a complete flop) because he was acquired around the same time.

    I have to constantly remind myself just how young he is. While it's too soon to say he definitely sticks as a SP, the steady improvements to his BB rate are certainly encouraging.
    Add in the fact that he had barely pitched when he was drafted.

    Touki reminds me of Tom Gordon (right handed with a good fastball,a top notch curve, and not always great control). Gordon was a good, but not great starter. When he moved to the pen he became an excellent reliever. I could see Touki being a guy that gets a lot of starts and a lot of relief appearances in his career.

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