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Thread: GDT 9/27/2013: Braves v. Phillies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    So I just read Mac will miss the final two games of season (possible to pinch hit Sunday though). That hurts our chances to sweep, but I understand we cannot take any chances with Mac.
    Probably the right move, don't wanna risk anything.

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    I'd keep Schafer on the playoff roster, not sure who you leave off though.

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    The only benefit of Schafer being on the roster is he's a left handed hitter. Problem is he hasn't hit anything and Elliot is a lefty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
    The only benefit of Schafer being on the roster is he's a left handed hitter. Problem is he hasn't hit anything and Elliot is a lefty.
    Yea, like I said I do believe your case is solid. I just doubt Schafer is left off regardless.

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    Been working and on the road all night, but a freaking great job by Medlen tonight. Now let's win tomorrow and Go Cubbies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    The is where I hate the win loss stat, both pitched awesome, vintage pitchers duel.

    Nice win though.
    Waah...cry me a river for Lee. He lost a baseball game. He didn't lose anything of any real value and he pitched well. No different than Smoltz in game seven of '91 WS. Thats what you compare tonight to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VirginiaBrave View Post
    Waah...cry me a river for Lee. He lost a baseball game. He didn't lose anything of any real value and he pitched well. No different than Smoltz in game seven of '91 WS. Thats what you compare tonight to.
    I wouldn't compare it to that game. It's too big a game to compare a regular season game that means nothing to Philly. Plus Smoltz didn't lose unlike Lee, Pena lost it for Atlanta in the 10th inning. As much as I try to forget that game it still comes back now and then. I've never been so crushed after a baseball loss in my life than after that game. The closest I've been to that feeling again is last year's so called one game playoff.

    That said, I agree with your point about not crying for Lee. Hudson pitched a gem against the Dodgers and lost with the only run he allowed being a missed catch (basically an error but earned because it wasn't touched). At least in Lee's case the run was legit and he gave it up (not his defense failing him).
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    Lee's 'loss' is just further proof that wins and losses for a pitcher should be an obsolete stat. It never will be due to the history of the game but wins and losses are a team stat. Yes, I believe the starting pitcher has the most control of any of the other players whether the team wins or not but it's still a team stat. And it should be treated that way. Lee pitched great and most educated fans don't care about wins and losses for a pitcher.

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    Kudos to Kris Medlen. You need a starter, any starter, to step up and raise the bar for everyone else. He's done that for us in September the last 2 years. Hopefully it will motivate the rest of the pitching staff - Time to man up and follow My Little Pony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    Kudos to Kris Medlen. You need a starter, any starter, to step up and raise the bar for everyone else. He's done that for us in September the last 2 years. Hopefully it will motivate the rest of the pitching staff - Time to man up and follow My Little Pony.
    There is no disputing it anymore. As of this moment Kris Medlen is our best starting pitcher and he is pitching his best at the right time.
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    Medlin will start game one on Thursday....;

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    The obvious answer to our last bench spot is, Uggla needs to be left off and Schafer should be added. Uggla adds no value to this team at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBrave View Post
    The obvious answer to our last bench spot is, Uggla needs to be left off and Schafer should be added. Uggla adds no value to this team at all.
    Carrying 3 4th OF would be dumb.

    And Uggla is a better hitter than Schafer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    There is no disputing it anymore. As of this moment Kris Medlen is our best starting pitcher and he is pitching his best at the right time.
    Need him to keep dominating next week. Hopefully our pitching goes strong through the post season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Need him to keep dominating next week. Hopefully our pitching goes strong through the post season.
    Agreed. But are you ready to admit that for the last 1 1/2 years that Medlen has been the best starting pitcher?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Agreed. But are you ready to admit that for the last 1 1/2 years that Medlen has been the best starting pitcher?
    He has by a smidgen. Minor has been better this year, but Medlen was better in the second half of last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bj1133 View Post
    Pretty sure I saw a tweet by DOB saying it was a bullpen game tomorrow for them
    That's a nice break for us if that's the case

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    The bullpen game for Philly is probably why St. Louis moved up Wainwright.

    If Philly is basically throwing the game, they'll need Wainwright to at least get them through to tomorrow and hope we lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
    The bullpen game for Philly is probably why St. Louis moved up Wainwright.

    If Philly is basically throwing the game, they'll need Wainwright to at least get them through to tomorrow and hope we lose.
    I don't think Waino goes too hard today. They may pull him early so he can go game 1 with plenty of rest.
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    Minor has barely been better this year. In the first half it wasn't close but Minor has taken a little step back in the second half while Medlen has been flat out dominant. Overall the difference in the last year and a half has been about a .20 advantage for Medlen in FIP. Not sure if you would call that a smidgen but both have been really good.

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