Page 8 of 18 FirstFirst ... 678910 ... LastLast
Results 141 to 160 of 351

Thread: Uribe and KJ to NYM

  1. #141
    Playing the Waiting Game
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    806
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    33
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    253
    Thanked in
    145 Posts
    Whalen was ranked as the Met's 18th best prospect, while Gant wasn't even in their top 30.

  2. #142
    Voted Worst Poster
    '13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner)
    Heyward's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    22,621
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,251
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,258
    Thanked in
    1,832 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Take 2 of our 3 power guys out and replace with peraza. Unfortunately, I think you're right

    I don't like trading uribe just for trading sake. Where are we gonna find a 3b next year? I thought uribe could've manned 3b for us next season until a better option came available. I don't think the chances of him coming back here are very good now
    There's not alot of options but some.

    Even Uribe, Howie Kendrick, Zobrist, Freese.

  3. #143
    10 yr, $185 million Extension
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    4,760
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    4
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    981
    Thanked in
    766 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by skillet View Post
    Whalen was ranked as the Met's 18th best prospect, while Gant wasn't even in their top 30.
    ANYONE in the league could have signed KJ. We got him for 1.5 million on a 1 year deal. How much do you think KJ half of a season of KJ is worth?

  4. #144
    It's OVER 5,000! CrimsonCowboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Outskirts Of Mobile, Alabama. Roll Tide!!!
    Posts
    14,200
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    491
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    6,380
    Thanked in
    2,814 Posts
    Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 4m4 minutes ago
    It's smart of the Braves to stay consistent with their rebuilding plan. Should be worried about 2017 instead of 2015.
    Chopping With The Braves And Rolling With The Tide

  5. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to CrimsonCowboy For This Useful Post:

    Dalyn (07-24-2015), Tapate50 (07-24-2015)

  6. #145
    10 yr, $185 million Extension
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    4,760
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    4
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    981
    Thanked in
    766 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    There's not alot of options but some.

    Even Uribe, Howie Kendrick, Zobrist, Freese.
    uribe CAN STILL BE THE 3B next year.....how has that changed.

    Playing for a playoff team is probably good for him. He'll sign somewhere that will tell him he can start and he'll try to get a 2 year deal. We could still do that.

    Edit....sorry, was trying to quote that heyward quoted....i agree with Heyward on this trade

  7. #146
    Playing the Waiting Game
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    806
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    33
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    253
    Thanked in
    145 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Russ2dollas View Post
    ANYONE in the league could have signed KJ. We got him for 1.5 million on a 1 year deal. How much do you think KJ half of a season of KJ is worth?
    Two scrub pitching prospects like Whalen and Gant.

  8. #147
    Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is. jpx7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    11,910
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    47,865
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    6,443
    Thanked in
    3,831 Posts
    I really like Kelly Johnson, and really liked what Juan Uribe brought to the Braves, but come on: this team is toast, so how is the trade anything but a good thing?
    Last edited by jpx7; 07-24-2015 at 08:07 PM. Reason: Just terrible typos.
    "For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."

  9. The Following User Says Thank You to jpx7 For This Useful Post:

    Julio3000 (07-24-2015)

  10. #148
    10 yr, $185 million Extension
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    4,760
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    4
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    981
    Thanked in
    766 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by skillet View Post
    Two scrub pitching prospects like Whalen and Gant.
    I think they are better than that. I think we have a decent chance at a 7th inning RP in 2017.

    And even if they are scrubs....HOW is that bad? Us losing an extra X games might put us in protected pick land.

  11. The Following User Says Thank You to Russ2dollas For This Useful Post:

    jpx7 (07-24-2015)

  12. #149
    Voted Worst Poster
    '13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner)
    Heyward's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    22,621
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,251
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,258
    Thanked in
    1,832 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    I really like Kelly Johnson, and really liked Juan Uribe brought to the Braves, but come: this team is toast, so how is the trade anything but a good thing?
    Yep, i dont know why people thought we should keep them, win some more games that hurt our 2016 pick which if protected would allow Hart to go for a top tier FA without losing our 1st.

  13. #150
    Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is. jpx7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    11,910
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    47,865
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    6,443
    Thanked in
    3,831 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    I'd honestly rather watch KJ and Uribe play the rest of the year than get two fringey, organizational filler types.
    I honestly would have rather watched Jason Heyward and Justin Upton play for the Braves this year than watch them play elsewhere—but that too is neither here nor there as of this moment.
    "For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."

  14. #151
    Voted Worst Poster
    '13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner)
    Heyward's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    22,621
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,251
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,258
    Thanked in
    1,832 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by skillet View Post
    Two scrub pitching prospects like Whalen and Gant.
    We dont know if they are scrubs.

    But even still, why throw your arms up over trading two players who were FA's to be.

    They could very easily sign KJ back for the bench next year, Uribe will probably be more unlikely but who knows. Still, this was a fine move, i dont know what more you could want for two 30+ yr old players whose deals expire.

  15. #152
    Voted Worst Poster
    '13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner)
    Heyward's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    22,621
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,251
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,258
    Thanked in
    1,832 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonCowboy View Post
    Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 4m4 minutes ago
    It's smart of the Braves to stay consistent with their rebuilding plan. Should be worried about 2017 instead of 2015.
    No, we should of kept them, won more games that hurt our draft positioning for 2016.

    Although some disagree, with the right moves, we can contend for a playoff spot next year but probably unlikely.

  16. #153
    It's OVER 5,000! Tapate50's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    24,479
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    9,099
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5,713
    Thanked in
    3,899 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by skillet View Post
    Two scrub pitching prospects like Whalen and Gant.
    Terrible post
    Ivermectin Man

  17. #154
    Hysterical Girlfriend
    That Storms Out and
    Returns the Next Day
    mossy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    2,134
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,404
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    886
    Thanked in
    453 Posts
    Here's the thing. I get why this deal is made. I just don't like letting go of a season. I knew it would probably happen, but I like KJ and didn't wanna let him go. He was here when Chipper, Mac, and Smoltz were still around.

    2017 better be worth it. But I can't kid myself either. We will likely never see anything better than we already had. The 90's were the glory years of this franchise. We had it so good.

    Moving on.... :/

  18. #155
    It's OVER 5,000! msstate7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    37,747
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    405
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5,331
    Thanked in
    3,705 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    We dont know if they are scrubs.

    But even still, why throw your arms up over trading two players who were FA's to be.

    They could very easily sign KJ back for the bench next year, Uribe will probably be more unlikely but who knows. Still, this was a fine move, i dont know what more you could want for two 30+ yr old players whose deals expire.
    I might would like the trade better if it was July 31st. A week away from the deadline with a lackluster return just reeks of desparation. Kelly and uribe aren't great trade pieces, but they do have some value. I would rather have got 12-15th ranked prospect from a team than 2 guys that aren't well thought of. Again, if it was July 31st, I'd feel differently...

  19. #156
    Expects Yuge Games nsacpi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    47,594
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    2,704
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    11,390
    Thanked in
    7,539 Posts
    Whalen=Northcraft

    Gant=Schlosser

  20. #157
    Voted Worst Poster
    '13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner)
    Heyward's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    22,621
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,251
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,258
    Thanked in
    1,832 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I might would like the trade better if it was July 31st. A week away from the deadline with a lackluster return just reeks of desparation. Kelly and uribe aren't great trade pieces, but they do have some value. I would rather have got 12-15th ranked prospect from a team than 2 guys that aren't well thought of. Again, if it was July 31st, I'd feel differently...
    Maybe you're right, but we dont know what else was being offered, certainly doesnt seem like a great trade.

    But it had to be done.

  21. #158
    Where's My Cup of Coffee?
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    1,182
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    297
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    419
    Thanked in
    221 Posts
    Expectations for players coming back are way too high if people expecting a top-10 prospect for KJ+Uribe.

    Seriously, both are rentals and neither are close to high-level talents. Are they useful players? Absolutely, but lets not get carried away here.

    We got two more young pitchers, throw enough of them against the wall and see what sticks - lower ceiling players like these are also useful in small deals down the line. Trading for more bonus money, or needing one more C+ prospect to finish off a deal.

    We are just building depth at this point, either one of these guys could potentially turn into a decent reliever/long man/back of the rotation starter... isn't that worth KJ/Uribe at this point when the Braves aren't contending?

    I have zero issues with this deal; and I don't care at all about trading inner division with rental players. People want a premium for trading with NYM? Why? Is KJ and Uribe going to be standing in our way in 2017 and tipping the balance of power in the division? I wouldn't want to trade young controllable talent in the division, but I don't care about rentals like this.

  22. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Preacher For This Useful Post:

    jpx7 (07-24-2015), NYCBrave (07-25-2015)

  23. #159
    Called Up to the Major Leagues
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    2,007
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    932
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    425
    Thanked in
    300 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by blueagleace1 View Post
    Mainly for trading within division.
    Oh yeah. This could come back and haunt them for decades to come.

  24. #160
    Playing the Waiting Game
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    806
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    33
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    253
    Thanked in
    145 Posts
    Who in the world ever said we shouldn't have traded KJ and Uribe, sure as hell wasn't me. I absolutely was on board with trading them and others to not only get prospects but to also better our draft position next year. What I said is I'm disappointed in the return we got.

  25. The Following User Says Thank You to skillet For This Useful Post:

    mossy (07-24-2015)

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 132
    Last Post: 06-07-2015, 11:42 AM
  2. Replies: 258
    Last Post: 05-28-2015, 05:00 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •