Uribe and KJ to NYM

[The Chosen One]

Hart may have to extend Fredi again when this team makes the playoffs in spite of Hart unloading everyone.

[dak]

After spending more time reading about Gant and Whalen, Gant seems a bit better than I initially thought and Whalen a bit worse. Still pleased with the trade and it met my expectations for what we would get. Neither Gant nor Whalen will need to be added to the 40-man for Rule 5 purposes this Winter, so that helps. I firmly believe that we'll cut ties with CJ before Spring Training in 2016, so I'm envisioning this $2.7m paying down a little chunk of the $17.5m that he's owed after this year.

[Hawk]

Service time is an asset to be hoarded in a season like this.

I think you want to be cautiously frugal with service time for some players but Peraza isn't one of them. For several reasons ... positional uncertainty and ceiling, namely.

[Russ2dollas]

what uncertainty? He should be a SS. Maybe a 2B. he's not anywhere else and his bat isn't so amazing you force him in somewhere.

[Hawk]

what uncertainty? He should be a SS. Maybe a 2B. he's not anywhere else and his bat isn't so amazing you force him in somewhere.

The uncertainty borne out of the reality that there is no place for him in Atlanta at either of those positions?

[Russ2dollas]

I'm just trying to imagine the Braves giving up a top 20 prospect for a haul like this and the outrage we'd hear....

[Russ2dollas]

The uncertainty borne out of the reality that there is no place for him in Atlanta at either of those positions?

he's a baby. they have plenty of time. And peterson isn't set in stone. and they could trade him. and it's not like he's got a 850 ops.

[Hawk]

he's a baby. they have plenty of time. And peterson isn't set in stone. and they could trade him. and it's not like he's got a 850 ops.

Right. That's generally what we mean when we say uncertainty.

[Russ2dollas]

Right. That's generally what we mean when we say uncertainty.

but not positional. He can't hit well enough to support anything much over SS

[Hawk]

but not positional. He can't hit well enough to support anything much over SS

SS/2B/CF I'd say. CF would be a last resort.

[jpx7]

It will be.

[VirginiaBrave]

Hope we get KJ back next year. However, I feel we can do better than Jaun strictly due to his age.

[weso1]

Hart has done well up to now. We basically traded 2 good players for 2 fringe players who will probably never see the Majors. Whalen might. Don't know.

2 good players... one who the Dodgers gave away a couple months ago and the other we signed to a minor league deal who barely even made the roster. Both are well into their 30's.

Some of you are really overestimating their value.

[VirginiaBrave]

Here's the thing. I get why this deal is made. I just don't like letting go of a season. I knew it would probably happen, but I like KJ and didn't wanna let him go. He was here when Chipper, Mac, and Smoltz were still around.

2017 better be worth it. But I can't kid myself either. We will likely never see anything better than we already had. The 90's were the glory years of this franchise. We had it so good.

Moving on.... :/

It will be that good again when we have ownership that the stated goal is to win a championship.

[The Chosen One]

Here's the thing. I get why this deal is made. I just don't like letting go of a season. I knew it would probably happen, but I like KJ and didn't wanna let him go. He was here when Chipper, Mac, and Smoltz were still around.

2017 better be worth it. But I can't kid myself either. We will likely never see anything better than we already had. The 90's were the glory years of this franchise. We had it so good.

Moving on.... :/

I like KJ, and there's nothing stopping him from coming back again next year.

[clvclv]

Something versus nothing in #2017.

But, yea: both guys seem pretty fringy.

$2.7 million to pay Maitan.

[Heyward]

@Braves
#Braves acquire RHP John Gant and RHP Rob Whalen from Mets in exchange for Kelly Johnson, Juan Uribe and cash considerations.

[clvclv]

Not a fan of strengthening a division rival for a minimal return at best. No problem with trading Uribe or KJ, definitely the correct decision to move guys like that at this point. However, to package them together to a division opponent, I'd expect a better return.

From the Mets, any of Rosario, Molina, Nimmo, Smith or Cecchini should have been the headliner. If you couldn't get them, make the mets include Meisner, Fulmer, Becerra or Morris.

Let's hope Whalen and Gant come better than advertised. And hope we get better returns for AJ or JJ

Can I please have some of what you're smoking???

Brandon Nimmo for two months of Juan Uribe and Kelly Johnson? Seriously???

[Heyward]

Not bad for a scrub.

Atlanta Braves ‏@Braves
Rob Whalen (@RobWhalen38) owns a career minor league record of 16-9 with a 2.43 ERA over 42 appearances (38 starts).

[striker42]

The only way this trade makes sense is if it's a salary dump. We gave these guys away for nothing.

I understand KJ and Uribe didn't have much value but this is exactly the kind of haul I didn't want. I'd rather have one risky relief prospect than two soft tossing right handed starters who max out as long relief.

Honestly, we gave up better prospects to get international money.

Again I understand Uribe and Johnson didn't have great value but I think we got jobbed in this deal. It makes no sense to me except as a salary dump.

Money aside, you get more value keeping them, having that veteran influence and building confidence with wins than the value of two guys who profile as minor league roster fodder.