GDT 04/28/19 Rockies @ Braves: The Slump Buster II: Battle for Jack Winterfell

[The Chosen One]

Whatever it takes

Me everytime we have a lead heading into the 9th:

We're in the End Game now.

[Enscheff]

I think AA will sign Kimbrel right after the draft. There’s been no rumors of Kimbrel going anywhere in a while. I think they have an agreement but are waiting till the day after the draft to make it official.

I’d be willing to bet money the Braves sign Kimbrel after the draft if someone gave reasonable odds.

[msstate7]

I’d be willing to bet money the Braves sign Kimbrel after the draft if someone gave reasonable odds.

Get Watson in the meantime.

[The Chosen One]

I’d be willing to bet money the Braves sign Kimbrel after the draft if someone gave reasonable odds.

I don't know how much longer AA can wait.

It's just a sandwhich pick right? We don't our #8 overall pick do we?

[CyYoung31]

Not really sure why the Giants would want a major league outfielder in exchange for relievers when they have no shot at competing this year, then again nothing the Giants have done has made sense in quite a while. I wonder if a package of Duvall, Newcomb, and maybe a throw in would be enough for 2 of the Watson/Melancon/Smith trio.

[Acuña’s Bat Flip]

I’d be willing to bet money the Braves sign Kimbrel after the draft if someone gave reasonable odds.

According to one of Anthopoulos' media mouthpieces we'd still owe a pick in next year's draft if we sign Kimbrel, just make the damn move already.

[msstate7]

Not really sure why the Giants would want a major league outfielder in exchange for relievers when they have no shot at competing this year, then again nothing the Giants have done has made sense in quite a while. I wonder if a package of Duvall, Newcomb, and maybe a throw in would be enough for 2 of the Watson/Melancon/Smith trio.

Aren't Watson and Smith in last year of contract? If so, newcomb too much imo

[Acuña’s Bat Flip]

Aren't Watson and Smith in last year of contract? If so, newcomb too much imo

Smith is yes but Watson has a cheap player option next year.

[CyYoung31]

Aren't Watson and Smith in last year of contract? If so, newcomb too much imo

We’ll only be getting one of the lefties. Just target Smith, I think he’s better anyway. We’re not going to get these guys for free when the entire league is having bullpen problems. Newcomb is a small price to pay.

[nsacpi]

Smith is better. Melancon has pitched well this year but is probably viewed by the Giants as a salary dump. They may make taking Melancon and his contract part of the price for getting Smith or Watson.

[The Chosen One]

Smith is better. Melancon has pitched well this year but is probably viewed by the Giants as a salary dump. They may make taking Melancon and his contract part of the price for getting Smith or Watson.

Will they take newcomb if we brand him as next MadBum. Do you think Zaidi will buy it

[Hudson2]

According to one of Anthopoulos' media mouthpieces we'd still owe a pick in next year's draft if we sign Kimbrel, just make the damn move already.

I don’t see how that could be true. After the draft the pick is gone. If we signed him now we would keep both of our 1st rounders and just lose our 2nd rounder which is our 3rd pick.

[drewdat]

Just take the money earmarked for Kimbrel and extent Luke

[BeanieAntics]

Smith is better. Melancon has pitched well this year but is probably viewed by the Giants as a salary dump. They may make taking Melancon and his contract part of the price for getting Smith or Watson.

Yeah if we can afford to absorb Melancon's contract we could probably get Smith or Watson for relatively cheap. I don't think it would take anything more than a prospect in the 15-30 range plus some filler. Maybe Duvall plus a guy in the 15-30 range if they want an MLB guy.

Obviously we match up really well with them as trading partners though.

[BeanieAntics]

Also, I think we match up pretty well with the Marlins as well. I really like Guerrero and Nick Anderson out of the pen. I bet they would be open to trading one of them for a modest little prospect package. Anderson is striking out over two hitters per inning and has only issued two walks.

I really wish that Ian Kennedy wasn't making 16 million a year because he has looked really good out of the Royals bullpen. They have some other guys with some pretty attractive numbers, though.

There are some really good relievers on some really bad teams. It may just be a matter of waiting until they fall out of contention so we can swoop in and poach a few arms.

[bravesfanMatt]

I don’t see how that could be true. After the draft the pick is gone. If we signed him now we would keep both of our 1st rounders and just lose our 2nd rounder which is our 3rd pick.

Saying if we sign CK after the draft that the new CBA says we would then forfeit our 3rd pick in 2020. I personally haven’t checked but this is the second time I heard this. That said if everything goes normal this draft then that 2020 pick would be a true 3rd rounder.

[CJ9]

Saying if we sign CK after the draft that the new CBA says we would then forfeit our 3rd pick in 2020. I personally haven’t checked but this is the second time I heard this. That said if everything goes normal this draft then that 2020 pick would be a true 3rd rounder.

And significantly less draft pool money that comes with a lower pick. That’s a big deal.

[thewupk]

I seriously doubt teams would have to give up a 2020 pick if Craig is signed after this years draft.

[bravesfanMatt]

I seriously doubt teams would have to give up a 2020 pick if Craig is signed after this years draft.

It seems weird to me as well. But I haven’t personally looked to see one way or the other.

[nsacpi]

(a) A Qualified Free Agent shall be subject to compensation only if: (i) his former Club tenders him a Qualifying Offer pursuant to paragraph (3) of this Section B; (ii) the Player declines the Qualifying Offer or signs a contract with another Major League Club prior to the expiration of the Acceptance Period; and (iii) the Player signs a Major League contract with another Major League Club that is confirmed by the Players Association and the LRD on or before the day prior to the next succeeding Major League Rule 4 Draft (“Rule 4 Draft”). A Qualified Free Agent who signs a bona fide Minor League contract shall not be subject to compensation irrespective of whether the Minor League contract is subsequently assigned to the Major League Club. No Club and Player may enter into any Major League or Minor League contract, or assign such a contract, with the intent to circumvent Article XX(B)(3) or XX(B)(4).

Bold added by me. There is NO compensation provision in the CBA for players who sign after the draft. Zip. Nada. But people who haven't bothered to look at the CBA will continue to write as if otherwise.