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    McMaster briefing at 11:30.

    http://www.politico.com/live

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    PublicPolicyPolling‏Verified account @ppppolls

    For first time in our national polling we find support for impeaching President Trump- 48% in favor, 41% opposed:

    What did the percent start with the day he was inaugurated? I doubt it's much lower than 40%.
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    What if ?

    He suffers from early stages of Alzheimer ?
    Going back to the campaign when even the results of his physical were taken at Trumps word

    We are talking about a 70 year old that takes terrible care of himself and stress is an issue

    Just sayin' - wonderin' aloud
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    The Rude Pundit‏ @rudepundit 39s40 seconds ago

    Everyone who speaks for Trump ends up sounding like a guilty child. It's embarrassing. If I lived in another country, I'd find it hilarious.


    Maggie Haberman‏Verified account @maggieNYT 2m2 minutes ago

    McMaster is both saying they will look into the leaks a day after calling the stories "false." That answer has changed.
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    So now, given that McMaster doubled down on his denial about information being shared inappropriately, detractors are stuck attempting to argue that Trump shouldn't have shared anything at all with the Russians ... because they are Russian.

    This all seems strangely familiar.

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    When is it , appropriate , to share Code Word level intellegence ?
    With Russians.

    What a word pretzel
    .......

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    Jim Acosta‏Verified account @Acosta 39m39 minutes ago

    Jim Acosta Retweeted Geoff Earle

    McMaster briefing appeared to be cut short after press aide entered room with note.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    When is it , appropriate , to share Code Word level intellegence ?
    With Russians.
    McMaster outlined this.

    I thought you were all tuned into the four W's?

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    http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/05/1...ess-secretary/

    NEW YORK — Kimberly Guilfoyle, the former first lady of San Francisco and current Fox News host, is in conversations with the Trump administration about becoming White House press secretary, she said in an exclusive interview with the Bay Area News Group Monday night.

    Guilfoyle said the idea of her taking the job or another press role in the White House has been “raised by a number of people” in the Trump administration, although she declined to go into specifics.


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    Perfect timing.

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    The only issue I really have with the Trump intel thing is that it is a prime example of how unqualified he is. I doubt this turns into any earth shattering problem or that it's a scary Trump-Russia collusion story, but if the official line is that the President had no idea where the information came from and it's supposed to be some huge piece of intel, I think it speaks volumes of the approach they have to take briefing the President and of his grasp of private intel.

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    Looks like Israel was the source. They (per a Haaretz article in January) are already feel antsy about sharing info, feeling like anything they share might end up in Iran via Russia.

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    I think mqt is on it. Even if this (and this is being charitable) absolutely NBD at all, it's at least revelatory about the ongoing concerns with DJT's discretion and general lack of self-awareness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Looks like Israel was the source. They (per a Haaretz article in January) are already feel antsy about sharing info, feeling like anything they share might end up in Iran via Russia.
    It'll be pretty rich if the Trump Administration manages to damage ties between Israel and the US after all the hand-wringing regarding Obama's treatment of Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    It'll be pretty rich if the Trump Administration manages to damage ties between Israel and the US after all the hand-wringing regarding Obama's treatment of Israel.
    I would assume that cozy relations between the Trump WH and Netanyahu's government might not reflect the views of either intelligence apparatus.

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    ITT Hawk is gunning to be Sean Spicer's replacement as Press Secretary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/05/1...ess-secretary/

    NEW YORK — Kimberly Guilfoyle, the former first lady of San Francisco and current Fox News host, is in conversations with the Trump administration about becoming White House press secretary, she said in an exclusive interview with the Bay Area News Group Monday night.

    Guilfoyle said the idea of her taking the job or another press role in the White House has been “raised by a number of people” in the Trump administration, although she declined to go into specifics.


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    Perfect timing.
    I suspect that the ****tiness of the WH press shop has more to do with the guy at the top than the personnel on the line.

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    you are still taking McMaster as a source ?
    interesting


    But the classified information he shared with a geopolitical foe was nonetheless explosive, having been provided by a critical U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so delicate that some details were withheld even from top allies and other government officials.

    McMaster added that Trump made a spur-of-the-moment decision to share the information in the context of the conversation he was having with the Russian officials. He said that "the president wasn’t even aware of where this information came from" and had not been briefed on the source.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.57540553544b

    Going to take for granted this is the "outline" you meant?




    We have a king now ?
    What McMaster did not "outline" was the prescribed/ legal "outline" for such disclosures.
    Do you subscribe to the Nixonian tenet that he is the President so whatever he does is legal :
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    Maggie Haberman‏Verified account @maggieNYT

    Trump, enraged and calling all his staff "incompetent," atWhite House under siege @GlennThrush and me
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    agreeing with Julio, you can have Olivia Munn for Press Secretary and this won't change

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    it's at least revelatory about the ongoing concerns with DJT's discretion and general lack of self-awareness.
    Oh, please. It's nothing of the sort. It is, however, a great example of continued attempts to throw random Russia related detritus at Trump with the prayer that something sticks.

    Trump revealed information, in a secure (classified status) setting, to high level foreign officials, about an ongoing terrorist threat to international civil aviation. He didn't post it on Twitter. He didn't let it slip in a staff meeting.

    It's been in the news for a month now (no laptops on flights from the Middle East, now potentially from Europe/Australia as well). There was a likely a discussion about the ban (or ISIS or something banal) and Trump provided additional details in that context. That's his prerogative.

    I've yet to read where this disclosure directly compromised intelligence networks, assets, or operations. I've read a worse case scenario, I guess as a kind of mealy-mouthed justification to this feeding frenzy, that the Russians could have taken this information to the Iranians ... but it's not clear how that might have occurred or how that scenario might have ended.

    Much ado about nothing, that, much like the other assorted crises we've had to suffer from this year, will be the title of a Margaret Mitchell book in a week's time (at the time of the next earth-shattering crisis).
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