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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    To sum it up, I'm hoping for Black because he is the best of the choices we've been allowed to consider.
    Agreed all around on what you said. In addition to Snitker being more of the same of what we've had forever, what he did with our bullpen this year wouldn't fly long term. He'd blow out our relievers arms and/or have them exhausted by the end of the year.

    Black is really a great choice with all the young pitching we will have coming up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auyushu View Post
    Agreed all around on what you said. In addition to Snitker being more of the same of what we've had forever, what he did with our bullpen this year wouldn't fly long term. He'd blow out our relievers arms and/or have them exhausted by the end of the year.

    Black is really a great choice with all the young pitching we will have coming up.
    My thoughts exactly. I started to add that about the bullpen but I didn't because usually that starts arguments on here and I'm tired of the same old arguments to be honest.

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    So people here hate on Padres and say they have been awful which is accurate, but want to hire their former manager who has a sub .500 record?

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    The most important aspect of managing a baseball team is how you handle the clubhouse. All three candidates at this point have good reputations for this, but for this particular job, no one is better served than Brian Snitker in this aspect. The three C's of coaching are character, competency, and connection, and Brian Snitker aces these three C's in spades.

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    DOB and Bowman both now reporting that the Braves are close to finalizing their manager search, both have reason to believe that Snitker is going to land the job
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    That would be good news he deserves it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanforlife88 View Post
    DOB and Bowman both now reporting that the Braves are close to finalizing their manager search, both have reason to believe that Snitker is going to land the job
    I'm a little surprised by this. When they were insistent they were considering outsiders, I figured they we likely to go with an outsider. Then when Roger was axed, I figured Balsley was on his way and it was a matter of time before they tabbed Bud Black. I'm not sure the manager has a huge impact on W/L, but there's no denying they came together under Snitker.

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    If Bowman says Snitker, then Black is getting the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GovClintonTyree View Post
    I'm a little surprised by this. When they were insistent they were considering outsiders, I figured they we likely to go with an outsider. Then when Roger was axed, I figured Balsley was on his way and it was a matter of time before they tabbed Bud Black. I'm not sure the manager has a huge impact on W/L, but there's no denying they came together under Snitker.
    Have to agree. Thought it was a nice gesture to Snitker to appoint him interim manager over TP or Eddie.....but I was not happy with his use his roster and bullpen management during the season....would much prefer someone like Bud Black or Washington with Snitker as bench coach or something
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    Hopefully the FO didn't mettle too much during this season because Snit was only interim, and if he gets the title officially they will do more to try to prepare him tactically. Things like batting Garcia 2nd prove Snit is not competent at that part of the job.

    Additionally, this move likely means Coppy was once again overruled by the Johns just like he was with the desicion to call up Swanson. The Braves just can't shake the "Braves Way" good old boys club no matter how hard Coppy seems to be trying to make it happen.

    Ultimately I think Snit will be fine, but the analytics department needs to be given more power to show him how to make optimal in game moves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonCowboy View Post
    If Bowman says Snitker, then Black is getting the job.
    I think Bowman thought his gut was saying snitkers instead of snickers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Additionally, this move likely means Coppy was once again overruled by the Johns just like he was with the desicion to call up Swanson. The Braves just can't shake the "Braves Way" good old boys club no matter how hard Coppy seems to be trying to make it happen.
    Not at all true.

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    It is funny how Snit's tactical managing is criticized, ignoring the fact that the team outperformed expectations under his management.

    He handles the clubhouse well and pushes the right buttons on his players, but because he doesn't sit there and manage off a spread sheet, he's not any good.

    I'll take Brian Snitker's instinct over anyone's spread sheet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    It is funny how Snit's tactical managing is criticized, ignoring the fact that the team outperformed expectations under his management.

    He handles the clubhouse well and pushes the right buttons on his players, but because he doesn't sit there and manage off a spread sheet, he's not any good.

    I'll take Brian Snitker's instinct over anyone's spread sheet.
    http://www.baseballprospectus.com/standings/

    Those numbers are interesting for us. It says that we were ever-so-slightly better than you would expect given our actual RS/RA but slightly worse than you would expect given our projected runs scored.

    Neither number is definitive, but it suggests we ended up about where you would think we would have. Of course, these numbers also include Fredi's tenure to start the year, so that has to be accounted for as well. But I'm not sure you can just flatly say that the team outperformed expectations under Snitker. We certainly outperformed where we had been to start the year before he took over, but beyond expectations in general? I don't know.

    And it's also hard to know how much to credit a manager for scoring more runs than you might think, for instance. We had a worse run differential over the course of the year than we projected to have, based on the underlying statistics we put up, but we also won slightly more games than you would expect given the run differential we actually posted.

    Regardless, as I've said, I'm fine with Snitker being named manager. I think he's really good for the clubhouse, which is probably the most important thing for a manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    It is funny how Snit's tactical managing is criticized, ignoring the fact that the team outperformed expectations under his management.

    He handles the clubhouse well and pushes the right buttons on his players, but because he doesn't sit there and manage off a spread sheet, he's not any good.

    I'll take Brian Snitker's instinct over anyone's spread sheet.
    It's possible to be a good manager with sub-optimal tactical strategy, which I and nearly everyone concedes was true of Snitker this year.

    It also doesn't excuse Snitker from refining his tactics as a manager. The good news is that its by far the easiest thing to improve upon as manager.

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    From what I saw at the end of the year... I can't complain one bit about this if true. Good on Snit.
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    Snit is a good baseball man.

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    Ken Rosenthal is reporting that Snitker is the leading candidate. This is being widely reported now.

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    The way this team looked under Snit was close to how they looked under Cox. Steady, consistent, professional.

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